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bidright

Indonesian Premier League(Semifinal A5)
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N Ong Keng H E T Asby N Lusye Bojo E W S tjejep
S Very P W D Sacul S Robert Tob W Julius A G
Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W
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3♠ E 4
170 3N W 5
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References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino
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#1 W:: 4,Q,2,5
#2 N:: 2,A,3,8
#3 E:: T,6,3,A
#4 N:: J,K,2,4
#5 E:: T,J,K,5
#6 W:: 4,6, T, Q
#7 E:: 9, 3, J,7
#8 S:: Q,A, 2, 7
#9 W:: 9,,,
ozgull: herkese merhaba
paksoy: merkese selamlar
arigun: Kapali oda turkce yorumlarla baslamistir,
yorumcularimiz Levent Ozgul, Emre Paksoy ve
Salvador Assael
arigun: 2009 Turkiye Sampiyonalari - Antalya vugraph yayini bayan maclari ile basliyor, Kapalli
oda Turkce yorum, acik oda Ingilizce Yorumlarla
izleyicilere aciktir
arigun: Bayan maclari 2 grupta 14’er, toplam 28
takim ile basladi
ozgull: iki grupta eleme maˆ§larˆ‰ oynannacak
ozgull: ilk 4 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰ final gruplarˆ‰nda
4erli iki grup olarak oynayacaklar
ozgull: yarˆ‰ final gruplarˆ‰nˆ‰n birincileri
final maˆ§ˆ‰ oynayacak
tez: selam:)
arigun: tekrar merhaba
arigun: Gunaydin herekese
tez: selamlar:)
MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz
vugraphzpv: herkese selamlar
MolvaM: vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z Kenan :)
selamlar
MolvaM: Tezcan ˆ en bu maˆ§ta yorumlarˆ‰ ile
bize ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k tutacak
ovncylmz: selam herkese
ovncylmz: Turkiye Bric Sampiyonalari Acik
Takimlar ikinci maclar
ovncylmz: Antalyadayiz:)
vugraphzpv: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese
vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba
arigun: herkese merhaba
vugraphzpv: gˆ…nde bir kere bayan takˆ‰mlarˆ
‰nˆ‰n maˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰ vermeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ acaˆ ˆ
‰z
vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ… son maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ yayˆ‰
nlayacaˆ ˆ‰z
vugraphzpv: tekrar herkese merhaba
vugraphzpv: tˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese
vugraphzpv: turnuva 1. ve 2.lerinin arasˆ‰ndaki
maˆ§ˆ‰ yayˆ‰nlˆ‰yoruz
Walddk4: selamlar
ovncylmz: herkese iyi gunler antalyadan:)
nafiz: meraba Roland, ˆ vˆ…nˆ§
ovncylmz: haha selam mr.roland:)
ovncylmz: i see that you learn turkish:)
Walddk4 : Thats the only word I know, and
merhaba
alichengiz: Merhaba herkese, Gˆ…neˆ li Antalya
’dan selamlar:) Nihal matracˆ‰ Dilek Kundakˆ§ˆ
‰ ˆ zmirli oyuncular, Vera Adut ve Lale Gˆ…mr
ˆ…kˆ§ˆ…oˆ lu, istanbullu, her iki ˆ§iftte uzun yˆ
‰llardˆ‰r birlikte ...
alichengiz: oynuyorlar
ovncylmz: =)
ovncylmz : zorlu bir mac olacak, takimlarin
durumlari hakkinda guncellenmis son bilgiler yok
ama...
ovncylmz: elimizde olan sabah sonundaki durumu
soyleyelim
alichengiz: merhaba herkese :)
alichengiz: Eymen Bedir ve Hakan Gˆ¶ksu Milli
takˆ‰m oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z
alichengiz: ˆ indeki olimpiyatlarda takˆ‰mˆ‰m
ˆ‰zda oynadˆ‰lar
alichengiz: Rokos Kasapoˆ lu ve Mehmet Barˆ‰
ˆ ˆ stanbul oyuncularˆ‰
alichengiz: Eymen Hakan artificiel bir sistem
oynuyorlar
alichengiz: Mehmet - Rokos ise 2/1 tabanlˆ‰
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naturale yakˆ‰n bir sistem
alichengiz: daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m oldukˆ§a ilginˆ§, ew 4
e gelip batabilir
alichengiz: Eymen tarafˆ‰ndan oynanˆ‰rsa
daha iyi
alichengiz: 3 nt ˆ anslˆ‰
alichengiz: Gˆ…neˆ li Antalya’dan Merhaba
herkese :)
fahir: Antalya’dan herkese merhaba
alichengiz: Salvador Assael, Nafiz Zorlu, ˆ zmirli
oyuncular, defalarca milli ve ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰
var, Nevzat aydoˆ du Burdur’da yaˆ ˆ‰yor, ˆ
ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var, Murat Anter, ˆ stanbul’lu,
Dˆ…nya ...
alichengiz: ˆ ampiyonu genˆ§lerimizden
fahir: ilk 2 sˆ‰rada yer almaya devam eden 2 tak
ˆ‰mˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ‰ ile gˆ…ne baˆ lˆ‰yoruz
alichengiz: Salvo - Nafiz, Zayˆ‰ NT, ve tranfer
sistem oynuyorlar
alichengiz: Merhaba Baˆ kan :)
fahir: merhaba
alichengiz: Cardingler, Salvolar, UDCA, yani, kˆ
…ˆ§ˆ…k apel ters sayˆ‰ oynuyor, ataklarˆ‰
Rusinow
fahir: bugˆ…n bayanlar 2. eteaba baˆ ladˆ‰lar,
maˆ§lar 20 bord olduˆ undan programa uymuyor.
bu yˆ…zden bugˆ…n bayan maˆ§ˆ‰ yayˆ‰
nlayamˆ‰yoruz
alichengiz: NS asˆ‰l oynuyor bilmiyorum, ˆ z
kan sˆ¶yleyebilirse sevinirim :)
alichengiz: Merhaba Herkese :)
emre kaya: herkese selamlar..iyi seyirler:)
alichengiz: Cengiz Arˆ‰gˆ…n - Nuri Cengiz,
Eski milli takˆ‰m oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z
alichengiz: Eymen Bedir Ve Hakan Gˆ¶ksu Milli
takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n ˆ u andaki oyuncularˆ‰
alichengiz: Merhaba Emre, Kenan :)
alichengiz: pas pas pas 1nt?
vugraphzpv: son durumlarˆ‰ tekrar vereyim
vugraphzpv: kolbastˆ‰ 1.
vugraphzpv: peksen2.
vugraphzpv: izmir belediye beyaz3.
alichengiz: karolar iyi daˆ ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ pik pasˆ‰
geˆ§iyor, 3nt ye gelirlerse ˆ anslˆ‰ bir ˆ ekilde
oluyor
vugraphzpv: matrix ise 5.
vugraphzpv: a gurubu sonuˆ§larˆ‰ bunlar
arigun: merhabalar
MolvaM: hoˆ geldiniz
MolvaM: bu maˆ§ˆ‰mˆ‰z aˆ§ˆ‰k seride lider
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durumda bulunan kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ ile
MolvaM: avrupa ˆ ampiyonu senyˆ¶r milli takˆ‰
mˆ‰mˆ‰z arasˆ‰nda
MolvaM: gerˆ§i gˆ…neyde oturan turgay sesyˆ‰
lmaz henˆ…z senyˆ¶rlˆ…k mertebesine ulaˆ amad
ˆ‰ ama olsun
alichengiz: Hava kapanmˆ‰ˆ antalya’da eminim
aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰r
vugraphzpv: birazdan son durumlarˆ‰ yazacaˆ ˆ
‰m
alichengiz: Murat Anter Genˆ§ milli oyuncumuz,
Dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonluˆ u var, Nevzat Aydoˆ du,
Defalarca ˆ ampiyon olmuˆ bir oyuncu, Tugbars
Bozkurt, Mersinde yaˆ ˆ‰yor, Tˆ‰p doktoru
alichengiz: Berk Baˆ aran Genˆ§ yeteneklerimizden
vugraphzpv: Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ 216 puanla
finale kaldˆ‰ ve 16 18 puan alarak 250 puanla 1.
vugraphzpv: 2. Noname1 takˆ‰mˆ‰ B gurubundan
finale kaldˆ‰ ve 242 puanˆ‰ var
MolvaM: son devreye girerken aˆ§ˆ‰k ve bayanlardaki
son durumu alsak ne iyi olurdu
alichengiz: EW Murat Anter, Dˆ…nay ˆ ampyonu
genˆ§milli oyuncumuz, Dr. Nevzat Aydoˆ du,
defalarca ˆ ampiyon oyuncumuz
MolvaM: sevgili operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z kenan ˆ imdi
bize bilgileri iletecek
MolvaM: birazcˆ‰k sabˆ‰r lˆ…tfen sonuˆ§lar
geliyor
vugraphzpv: herkese merhaba..p
nafiz: E. Sen kim ya ? :)..p
arigun : yorumcularimiz, Tezcan Sen, Nafiz
Pakdemir
vugraphzpv: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n
tez: 5♣ sadece 4 batiyor
ovncylmz: Avrupa Sampiyonu Turkiye Senyor
Milli Takim ile
vugraphzpv: tekrar herkese merhaba
alichengiz: KG 5♣ barajˆ‰ yapmaˆ a kalkarsa
antre sorunlarˆ‰ var
alichengiz: koz bozuk trajedi olabilir
alichengiz: Merhaba ˆ zkan, kolay gelsin :)
alichengiz: NS Hakan Pekˆ en ve Osman ˆ zcan ˆ
stanbul’lu deˆ erli oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z..2
nafiz: ben yorumcu deˆ ilim hocam..p
arigun: as yorumcu :)
vugraphzpv: emine ˆ en oyuncu profilinde tam
isimler yazˆ‰lˆ‰
tez : guneyin eliyle cevap verenler olacaktir
oynadiklari sisteme gore
arigun: ayni anda 2 masayi birden izlemek icin;
©
http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ her masa icin
internet tarayicisindan bir pencere acmaniz
gerekiyor
vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten
yararlanabilirsiniz
vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/index.php?
option=com_content&view=article&id=49:2009tuerkye-brc-ampyonalari-talyada-25-nsan-3mayis-2009&catid=50:2008-2009-sezonu&
Itemid=99
tez: selamlar:)
ovncylmz: bu el guzel bir ortaklik anlasmasi eli:)
bakalim neler olacak
MolvaM: o da gˆ¶nˆ…llerin senyˆ¶rˆ…
arigun: gelecek vaadeden senyor adaylarimizdan :)
vugraphzpv: ilk maˆ§larˆ‰n sonuˆ§larˆ‰nˆ‰
yazayˆ‰m
tez: bazilari 1♣ e 2 ♠ i 3/5 puan oynuyor..p
arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detay bilgilere (acik ve
bayan) http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ link’inden
ulasabilirsiniz
alichengiz : Hakan Pekˆ en Ozman ˆ zcan ve
Burak Baˆ kan ˆ stanbullu oyuncular
alichengiz: Kuranaoˆ lu, Ankara’lˆ‰
hobakan: iyi akˆ amlar
vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n sonunda a gurubundan 6
b gurubundan 2 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n finallere kalacak
ergur: herkese slm..p
alichengiz: .
ovncylmz: 2nt diyebilir guney su anda "minorler"
anlaminda
alichengiz: Diˆ er masadaki NS ˆ§ift, Bˆ…lent
Aslan ve Mustafa Akgˆ…l’de milli oyuncularˆ‰
mˆ‰z, defalarca ˆ ampiyonlukalarˆ‰ var her dˆ¶
rt ˆ§iftin
MolvaM: tˆ…rkiye takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonalarˆ‰
nda son 14 board
alichengiz : Diˆ er Masa, Levent ˆ zgˆ…l ve
Enver Kˆ¶ksoy, Milli takˆ‰m oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰
z, Ankara’da yaˆ ˆ‰yorlar
vugraphzpv: Kolbastˆ‰ 273
vugraphzpv: Peksen 255
vugraphzpv: Matrix 252.13
alichengiz: Fikret Aydoˆ du ve Haldun vahaboˆ
lu Defalarca ˆ ampiyon olan oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z,
vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli 251
vugraphzpv: Noname1 251
vugraphzpv: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 245.08
vugraphzpv: Midyat Bel. 240
vugraphzpv: Zabunoˆ lu 218
MolvaM: bu durumda kolbastˆ‰ bu maˆ§ˆ‰ 23-
7 kaybetse bile tˆ…rkiye ˆ ampiyonu olacak
vugraphzpv : sˆ‰ralamasˆ‰yla verdim son
durumu
MolvaM: eˆ er yanlˆ‰ˆ hesaplamadˆ‰ya
MolvaM: hesaplkamadˆ‰ysam
MolvaM: Kandemir acaba 1 trefl kontruna pas geˆ
§sem nasˆ‰l olur diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rken ˆ¶nˆ…
ne 3♣ geldi..♠4
tez: 1 puan eksigi var guneyin
tez: 4 rahatca yapilabildigi icin 3♣ cok karli
degil..2 batip 300 verecekler
ovncylmz : Romanya’da temmuzda ulkemizi
temsil edicek Genc Milli Takim’dan 4oyuncunun
yer aldigi takim oynuyor
ergur: slm herkese
ovncylmz: herkese merhaba, eymen bedir-hakan
goksu aksam 25 le birakmislardi
alichengiz: Merhaba ..♠Q
alichengiz: ns 4 lˆ… major le aˆ§ˆ‰yor, kanepe
sistem, yanda daha uzun renk olabilir
alichengiz: Kolay gelsin Kenan, Merhaba :)
vugraphzpv: Kolbasti Peksen maˆ§ˆ‰ 16 14
bitti
vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli Midyat Bel. 17 13
bitti
vugraphzpv: Matrix Zabunoglu maˆ§ˆ‰25 4
bitti
ergur: slmm..♠2
alichengiz: Diˆ er Masada EW ˆ§ift, Haldun ˆ ˆ‰
vgˆ‰ner ve Mustafa Baˆ ar Karakuˆ , yine genˆ§
oyuncular, Ns ˆ§ift ˆ se, Fikret Adoˆ du Samsun
Emniyet mˆ…dˆ…r yardˆ‰mcˆ‰sˆ‰, ˆ§ok ˆ
ampiyonluˆ u var, Haldun ...
alichengiz: Vahaboˆ lu Ankaralˆ‰ ve yine ˆ
ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var
vugraphzpv: 3. Peksen takˆ‰mˆ‰ 239 puanˆ‰
var
tez :
10 oynanmali..oynanirsa kuzey onor
girmemeli..♠5
kabexnuf: selamlar herkese
arigun: defans ♣ kupu alabilirse batiracak
ergur: 3nt =
vugraphzpv: vugraph yayˆ‰nˆ‰nda bize yardˆ
‰mcˆ‰ olan Cengiz Arˆ‰gˆ…n ˆ imdi masada
oynuyor
ovncylmz: 12.maclar sonunda ege A grubu 1.si
alichengiz: 4♠ iyi bir ihale
ovncylmz: kaldiklari yerden devam edecekler mi
acaba?
alichengiz: Ufufk Koˆ§ ve Tayfun ˆ zbey Ankara
’lˆ‰lar, onlarˆ‰nda ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ ve milli
olmuˆ luklarˆ‰ var
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vugraphzpv: Noname Yilankˆ‰ran maˆ§ˆ‰ 22
4.
8 bitti
alichengiz: 3nt de sorun yok, ♠ ler ve karolar ak
©
arigun: turgay
harici key card sordu
vugraphzpv: kendisine baˆ arˆ‰lar diliyoruz..
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alichengiz: Merhaba ˆ vˆ…nˆ§
ovncylmz : dogu bati cok hizli kompetisyon
yapiyor her zamanki gibi
MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰nlar.. A
MolvaM: ataˆ§ 1 konuˆ ma daha yaparmˆ‰?
MolvaM: elinde 3 defans varken yapmamalˆ‰
ovncylmz: inci ayakkabi ise 2.si
ovncylmz: ve son maclar zannedersem
MolvaM: selamlar gˆ…naydˆ‰nlar herkese
nafiz: irem kˆ‰zˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ in’de oynayan takˆ
‰mda da yer almˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰ .. 3
MolvaM: ama belli mi olur
kabexnuf: bence cok guzel bir secim vugraph iˆ§
in, teˆ ekkˆ…rler TBF
vugraphzpv: slm Koray hoˆ geldin
ovncylmz: Genc takim 2-3hafta once Eskisehir’
de secildi
arigun: simdi ♣A
oynamasi lazim
alichengiz: .
alichengiz: " 1♠ kontur deseydi diˆ er 2 renk
olacaktˆ‰
henryb: GM all
vulkan: gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese
tez: atagi sayisiyla yapmamak iyi bir aliskanlik
degil.. 8
arigun: dekleran yerden K koymasa muhtemelen
J kazanacak, Ferda nin ♣ oynamasi zor olablirdi
alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler nafiz bey :)
nafiz: hoˆ geldiniz
alichengiz: yˆ…ksek..
fahir: ˆ lem araˆ tˆ‰rmasˆ‰ pahalˆ‰ya patlayabilir
vugraphzpv: maˆ§ sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve butler sˆ‰
ralamasˆ‰ iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz
option=com_content&view=article&id=195:
tuerkye-bayan-doertlue-sonuclari&catid=50:20082009-sezonu&Itemid=99
alichengiz : diˆ er Masada Enver Kˆ¶ksoy ve
Levent ˆ zgˆ…l, Ankaralˆ‰, Milli takˆ‰m
oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z, Birol Us ve Aydˆ‰n Uysal ˆ
stanbul’lu
MolvaM: bugˆ…n tˆ…rkiye briˆ§ ˆ ampiyonalarˆ
‰nda aˆ§ˆ‰k ve bayan dˆ¶rtlˆ…lerde son gˆ…n
alichengiz: Noname1 takˆ‰mˆ‰ bu turnuvanˆ
‰n 2. sˆ…rprizini yaptˆ‰, ˆ§ok baˆ arlˆ‰
gidiyorlar, hayli genˆ§ bir kadro
vugraphzpv: Matrix takˆ‰mˆ‰ 238.13 puanla
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ˆ‰llˆ‰
vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli 237 puanla 5.
vugraphzpv: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 226.08 puanla 6.
vugraphzpv: Midyat Bel 226 puanla7.
vugraphzpv: Zabunoˆ lu 205 puanla8.
arigun: kapali oda kolay bir board ile basladi, 3nt
iyi kontrat 9 veya 10 love olacak..♠T
vugraphzpv: son durumlar bˆ¶yle
vugraphzpv: son maˆ§larˆ‰n kimler arasˆ‰nda
olduˆ unu yazacaˆ ˆ‰m birazdan
MolvaM: nur kumkale ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n 3 deklaresini
forsing olarak algˆ‰ladˆ‰ herhalde..♠6
alichengiz: alˆ‰p koz oynayacak bˆ…yˆ…k olas
ˆ‰lˆ‰kla
alichengiz: koz veya
ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa 5 yapˆ
‰lˆ‰r, aksi halde -1
MolvaM: diˆ er taraftan pekˆ en takˆ‰mˆ‰ 23
alabilmek iˆ§in biraz alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ li boardlar
gelmesini umacak bu maˆ§ta
MolvaM: hmmm..♠3
tez: vugrafta olmanin dayanilmaz hafifligi:)
MolvaM: bari 5 trefl aˆ§saydˆ‰
MolvaM: gˆ…ney aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan daha acˆ‰sˆ‰
z olurdu
vugraphzpv: genˆ§ milli adaylarˆ‰mˆ‰z bize
yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ oacak bu maˆ§ta ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§ ve
koray teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz kendilerine
Walddk4: Any of the players here in the team that
did so well in Beijing?
fahir: herkese Merhaba
alichengiz: ˆ imdi pike gider trefl pasˆ‰ atarsa 8
lˆ¶veye gelir, karolar ˆ§ekilir herhalde ♣ Q ile alˆ
‰nca
vugraphzpv: oyuncu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor
MolvaM: Kandemir ile ˆ u an rˆ¶portaj yapmak
ilginˆ§ olabilirdi..♠A
vugraphzpv: sANIRIM ORADA OLMAYI BEN
ˆ M KADAR ONLARDA ˆ STEDˆ :)
ovncylmz: merhaba=)
ovncylmz: muhammet irfana kor onoru veriyor (
dogal olarak) ve sleme gidiyorlar.. J
alichengiz: aktif eller
alichengiz: evet :)
vugraphzpv: bayanlarda 3.lˆ…k maˆ§larˆ‰ bitti
ve Mersin takˆ‰mˆ‰ 3. oldu
vugraphzpv: herkese tekrar merhaba.. K
alichengiz: -2
ovncylmz: XX KXXX AKQXXX A olsa slem
son derece iyi gibi.. 2
alichengiz: -2 olabilir yi defansa
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alichengiz: iletiˆ imlerini bozmaya ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
yor
alichengiz: karolarˆ‰ oynamalarˆ‰nˆ‰ zorlaˆ t
ˆ‰rmak iˆ§in
arigun: ♠ atak edilecemeyecek, dekleran 2
yere cakip 1 tane As’a atabilir ancak el yer
baglantisi sorunu var
MolvaM: haldun vahaboˆ lu yeri gˆ¶rdˆ…ˆ ˆ…
anda zil takˆ‰p oynamaya baˆ lamˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰dˆ
‰r acaba?
arigun :
expass’i tecih ederse 1 tane de ♠
veriyor
MolvaM: bir de koz dam sorunu var ama o ˆ¶
nemli deˆ il
MolvaM: kimin sorunu yok ki bu devirde?
vugraphzpv: bundan sonra son maˆ§lar oynanacak
alichengiz: Teˆ eˆ kkˆ…rler Kenan :)
alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Kenan olacaktˆ‰ :)
tez: ilk el oldugu icin 2 deste var diye dusunuyordur..
4
vugraphzpv: hayati Ergˆ…r bize yorumlarˆ‰yla
yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olacak kendisine teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz
alichengiz : 5 !e kontur atak istemediˆ ini
belirtiyor olabilir veya psiˆ ik :).. T
alichengiz: sitede son durum yok mu Kenan?
alichengiz: typo hatalarˆ‰ iˆ§in kusura bakmayˆ
‰n
MolvaM: tebrikler mersinli bayanlara
alichengiz: Tebrikler Mersin
nafiz: no Roland as far as i know.. J
alichengiz: koz alˆ‰p kozla ˆ§ˆ‰kacak
alichengiz: Q koysun diye 8 :)
MolvaM : haldun vahaboˆ lu keyifle yandaki
boardlarˆ‰ dˆ…zenliyormuˆ
arigun: ♣ elden ezemez ♣ leri 2 tur koz’dan
once cekemiyor
arigun: Tezcan Sen hosgeldin.. K
tez: u.tarhanˆ‰n
8 liye sahip cˆ‰kmasˆ‰
gerekiyor
Walddk4: We have some in the open room
vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m girilmedi ama
hobakan : Kuranoˆ lu ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n 4 mˆ…
yoksa 5 tane mi kˆ¶rden ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ¶
zemedi
vugraphzpv: birazdan ben yazacaˆ ˆ‰m durumlar
ˆ‰
MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda forsing deklare yapmak istese
idi f.ulus 4. renk forsingi yapabilirdi. yani bu
durumda 3 nun davet olmasˆ‰ makul. ve
Nurpas geˆ§ebilirdi.. 5
ovncylmz: su anda da empasa zannedersem
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vugraphzpv: bu ataˆ a yapacak kartˆ‰
alichengiz: kˆ¶r devam ederse 5 yine oluyor
emre kaya: -3 kˆ¶r atagina
ergur: daha iyi.. 4
ovncylmz: selamlar herkese
alichengiz: pik iˆ§in tabii ki:)
MolvaM: ilk vugraf yayˆ‰nˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰ bayanlar
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paksoy : 9 lˆ¶veye garanti iˆ§in A R tref tref
oynamasˆ‰ lazˆ‰mdˆ‰.. 6
ozgull: 11 lˆ¶ve oldu
tez: selam:)
tez: ˆ u ♣ 4 kesilir mi?.. T
ovncylmz: masada irfan disinda kimse irfanda
xxxx kor oldugunu bilmiyor tabi:)
ovncylmz: faik abi de su an gordu:)
vugraphzpv: 4♠ 1 1 6♣
ovncylmz: operatorumuz de bu kartlari iyi yapar:)
alichengiz: +1 oluyor artˆ‰k
ergur: hastadaydˆ‰m ˆ imdi geldim:).. Q
alichengiz: ele ˆ§ekerse +2
ozgull: slm..♠9
paksoy: 5-1 karoya tehlikeli olabilirdi bu oyun
MolvaM: acaba kuzey, Kandemir’e 3♣ kontrunun
anlamˆ‰nˆ‰ sordu mu
kabexnuf: merhabalar
ergur: slmm
alichengiz: 4 +1 yapˆ‰labiliyor
MolvaM: fakat 3NT olmaya doˆ ru gidiyor gibi.
yani bu durumda benim bˆ…tˆ…n sˆ¶ylediklerim
boˆ :).. 3
MolvaM: 14 bordluk maˆ§larda 23-7 kazanmak iˆ
§in kaˆ§ IMP fark gerekiyor kenan?
kabexnuf: kor oynamazsa yapar..♠J
tez: 2♠ acilsaydi oyun zordu
alichengiz: Hoˆ geldiniz :)
tez:
u bilemeyebilirdi..♠7
nafiz: hoˆ geldin Koray.. Q
alichengiz: yerden alˆ‰p karo pasˆ‰ yapˆ‰p
karo ˆ§aksa daha iyiydi
kabexnuf: kenan sen yorulmadˆ‰n mˆ‰ hala?..
A..♣2
hobakan: smith ˆ ansˆ‰ olmadˆ‰ tam olarak
alichengiz: Geˆ§miˆ olsun
tez :
10 oynamak masa gerceginde cok ise
yarar.. 7
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Mitra Buana
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Geologi Timah
109
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N 2
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♠A Q 7
J
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♣K J 6 2
♠K J 4 3
N ♠10 9 8 2
A94
K10 7
W E
K84
A10
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♣9 7 3
♣Q 8 5 4
♠65
Q865 32
QJ3
♣ A10
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W: Julius A G
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7
8
7
5
7
5
3
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N: Lusye Bojo
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E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
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#3 W:: 4,5, 7, Q
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#4 E:: 4,,,
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sybarra: hello all
mcarroll: Good evening all
ady: hi Shirley
ady: Hi Martin
joest: hello
mcarroll: Hi Shirley, David
vugraphzmh : welcome back to Estoril Open
Teams 2009
sybarra: welcome back to Estoril and hola to
Isabel, our operator
roswolf: hi all
cuttysark: Good afternoon
vugraphzpe: Let the match begin!
Walddk5: Hello Liz and Geoffrey
hedyg: welcome to Avram Kreisberger
hedyg : our operator is Matias Rohrberg, hi
Matias!
vugraphzpe: hi!
hedyg: the official website is http://www2.bridge.dk
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ady: good evening
lestergold: evening all hi David
lestergold: and... its the St Johns Wood commentary
team!
Walddk5: Good evening everyone and welcome
back to Copenhagen
mariner1: hi all..p
panja: difficult to see why North played that. The
only reason could be that it is not normal, so it
must be good
Walddk4: Welcome Martin, Shirley, David, Jack
and Bob
idc : and you can’t get the contracts anymore
either - 1 at the other table isn’t going to set our
pulses racing..p
galadriel: Transfer response then pass
roswolf: hi roland
Walddk5: our operator is Matias Rohrberg
hedyg: you can find the CCs there
bcallaghan: Danger of getting too high in spades...2
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keylime: 2 Multi to start from North
mcarroll: Hi jack
joest: hi Martin
ady: first hand looks like 4♠ n/s
Walddk4: Good evening everyone and welcome
back to Estoril
mariner1: 2♠ either multi or weak majors..p
mariner1: 2
hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBOTV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time,
even while playing or in the lobby. No download
needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don’t. ...
hedyg: Open one browser window per table
ady : looks like e/w may reach 4
which
should fail
lestergold: and we are i think about to witness a
doomed 4h
Walddk4: Your commentators are Shirley Ybarra,
Geoffrey Wolfarth, Jon Sveindal and Panja..2
idc: at other table - North opened 1 to show 1115 and 4+ ♠, so South passed it..p
chen_xin: ´ ˆ 2´‰ˆ ´¿´“ˆ ´…ˆ ˆ
chick: possible to make 4♠, losing a spade and 2
hearts
ady: Hi Roland
jbgood: good evening
Walddk4: Our operator is sweet Isabel
sybarra: hello all
vugraphzmh: http://www.quintonaipe.com/fed09
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Walddk5: Your commentators are Christina Lund
chen_xin: ˆ ˆ‚ns´ ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ†ˆ ˆ·ˆ ´¥ˆ ˆ“ˆ ˆfl´¶ˆ ´ ˆ ´ ´†ˆ
Madsen, Anders Sigsgaard, Cindy Marshall and
Marshall Lewis
bcallaghan: 4S looks like a fair contract, but not
on this layout...p
panja: 5 is a nice contract on board 1
sybarra: puppet will help here I think
roswolf: hi all
asig: Hi all
Walddk5: Our operataor is Matias Rohrberg
galadriel: oops..p
bcallaghan: Not a good idea removing partner’s
penalty double with a defensive trick.
Walddk2: If 3 showed his hand, he should not
overrule partner’s decision to defend
idc: ok, my pulse is racing now, I admit that
mariner1 : EW can make 3N here if they get
there.. A
keylime: good agreements needed here on where
bids show stops or ask for stops
ady: hi Jack
bjacobs: Strange auction.. 3
lestergold: horrible duplication and bad trumps
but normal to bid it and will probably end up as a
push
ady: 27 pts game should fail 3NT may make
ady: hi Mike
lestergold: hi again David
lestergold: it lloks like only us here this evening
ady: yes
lestergold: yes we can see how much superior 3n
is but how can they reach it?
lestergold: east has the values to bid 4h over
partners normal raise- he has no reason to give
info to opps bidding 2s which muight indeed
encourage his pard to tryy no trumps but its a
double ...
lestergold: dummy auction
vugraphzpe : Martin isnt famous for his fast
declarers play, thats for sure.
Walddk5: Hello David and Mike
lestergold: is he very tall and thin?
ady: even 3NT has its problems on a diamond
lead
Walddk5: and welcome back to Jesper Thomsen
lestergold: hi Roland
pentacon: Hi David and mike
galadriel: Well, this makes the other table look
tame.. 8
idc: I’m getting a feeling that we are approaching
’last rubber of the night’ territory
bjacobs: Why does South prefer hearts to spades?
sybarra: got here just in time for the excitement
ady: Hi Jesper
asig: I think a spade shift would have been better
asig : Now declarer can ruff 3 diamonds in
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christinas: but then he3 has 2 spade-losers, 1
club and a H
christinas: it is always down
mariner1 : this is 16 boards from Shenyang,
China.. 2
chick : not so sure about that, panja. a lot of
ruffing needed and diamonds are 4-1
hedyg: needs Q in N instead of Q♣ for slam
lestergold: hi Jesper
panja: 3Nt is not as good..even with ♠ finesse
there are only 8 tricks...but E must switch to ♣ at
trick two.. T
roswolf: 2nt = 18-20?
Walddk5: Good afternoon to David Grainger
from Canada
keylime: friendly lead for declarer here.. J
roswolf: yup super first hand
jbgood: the teams are currently in 1st and 3rd
position - Jourdain in 3rd
drg: Hi all
asig: Hi David
idc: the one that lasts for 3 hours and features
many four figure penalties as the empty beer
bottles build up.. K
Walddk2: 800 on best defence
Walddk5: Convention cards from http://www2.bridge.dk
/Default.aspx?ID=1374
ady: they have just bid a 27 pt 4
which looks
doomed
mcarroll: Nicely bid.. 6
Walddk4: Our operator is Isabel, welcome to you
too
sybarra: play wont take long
joest: hmm
cuttysark: There seems to be a tredn towards 2openers that include a balanced 18-19.
Walddk5: 18-19
mdgraham: he will win K and return 10.. 4
joest: if 3NT is both, are there enough bids left to
show one and none?
joest: I’m sure they have it all worked out though
ady: 2♣ puppet stayman for 5 card majors 2
shows no 5 card major but both 4 card majors
cuttysark: I was taught that was very dangerous
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joest: I thought 3 showed both.. 5.. 7.. Q
cuttysark: Nut it has worked well here when C!Q
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hedyg: welcome to Gad Chadha and Joe Shair
calabres: we have con problems, will be fixed
shortly..♣4
mariner1: continue 10 .......
chen_xin: ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ´‡´¡ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ´‰´¶ˆ ˆ ´¥ˆ ˆ“ˆ ˆfl´†´»
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sybarra: goes down on
and ruff,
sybarra: easy from here
jbgood: S asked for a
shift - couldnt imagine
N had seven of them
Walddk5: Oskar sleeping now, Christina?
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Geologi Timah
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Mitra Buana
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W 4
180
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♠ K J10 8 6 5 3
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A54
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♠A 9 4
N ♠Q 2
Q10 9
K865
W E
Q976
J10 3
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♣A J 7 5
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A J 432
K82
♣8 6 4 2
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W: D Sacul
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N: Ong Keng H
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S: Very P
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#1 N:: 7,5,4,T
#2 W:: Q,K,A,2
#3 E:: 6,2,Q, 6
#4 W:: 6,4,J,K
#5 S:: 7,4,K,2
#6 N:: T,Q, 2, 9
#7 E:: T,8,7,5
#8 E:: 3, 3, Q,A
#9 N:: 9,5,4,T
#10 W:: 9, 3, 8,J
#11 W:: A,5, K,
arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detayli bilgilere www.tbricfed.org.tr
adresinden ulasabilirsiniz
tez: kuzey el aldiginda alici kozunu cekmeliydi..rakip
ona dursun efendi deyip disarda birakacakti
MolvaM: bakalˆ‰m skor tabelasˆ‰na nasˆ‰l
yansˆ‰yacak
ovncylmz: irfan-muhammet kirmizida 2 multi,
2h/sp: 5-5 oynuyorlar
ovncylmz: 2 de kor pik olabiliyor 5-5
MolvaM: selamlar
vugraphzpv: gˆ…naydˆ‰n koray hoˆ geldin
arigun: kenan, 2 alert edildimi, michael’s renk
belli mi oynuyorlar yani ♠♣ ?
arigun: oyle ise batirmak cok zor olmayacakti...
vugraphzpv: ♠ +minˆ¶r diye alert edildi
arigun: anladim, minor belli degil yani
vugraphzpv: evet
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empas gecmeyecek
ovncylmz: sert bir baslangic
alichengiz: salvo nafiz, 3. den kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ya
yeˆ il zon durumu dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda 11-14 NT aˆ§ˆ‰
yorlar
hobakan: iyi valla. zemin mˆ…sait..:)
alichengiz: 4♠ veya 3nt EW tarafˆ‰ndan
hobakan: fena bir prensip deˆ ildir. defansta iˆ e
yaramasa bile psikoljik olarak iyidir.
MolvaM: board sonrasˆ‰ kavga edilirken anlarˆ
‰z durumu bizler de
alichengiz: durmadan deˆ iˆ iyor lˆ¶ve durumu
oynanan kartlara gˆ¶re
vugraphzpv: son maˆ§larˆ‰ Kolbastˆ‰ Peksen
alichengiz: 3nt NS
vugraphzpv: Matrix Senyˆ¶r Milli
alichengiz: rahat el, alˆ‰ˆ veriˆ zor bu elde
vugraphzpv: Noname Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran
alichengiz: Gˆ…neyden oynanmasˆ‰ A10
den ˆ¶tˆ…rˆ… daha iyi
MolvaM: evet KOlbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ bu tˆ…r
ellerin gelmesini tercih edecektir tˆ…m maˆ§
boyunca
vugraphzpv: Midyat Bel. Zabunoˆ lu takˆ‰mlarˆ
‰ arasˆ‰n da yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor
MolvaM: diˆ er masada nasˆ‰l gidecek bakalˆ‰
m..p
MolvaM: bu gˆ…nˆ…n son maˆ§larˆ‰na hoˆ
geldiniz
vugraphzpv: evet u-26 b gurubu 1.si ˆ uanda
alichengiz: evet 5♣ barajˆ‰ trajedi olur derken
haklˆ‰ymˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰m :)
alichengiz: o durumda 15-17
alichengiz: 4 pik yapˆ‰labildiˆ i iˆ§in, diˆ er
masada 4♠’e gelinirse 4 sayˆ‰ Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran’
a
alichengiz: pardon Midyata’a
alichengiz: :) sevgili gˆ…zel izmir’imin kˆ‰
ymetini bil
MolvaM: bu esnada aˆ§ˆ‰k dˆ¶rtlˆ… takˆ‰mlar
ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nda da final turlarˆ‰ baˆ ladˆ‰..p
ovncylmz: beyazda 2karo zayif demislerdi ama
bilmiyorum tam..1
arigun: yeni gelenler icin, ayni anda 2 masayi
birden seyretmek istiyorsaniz, http://www.bbotv.com
/vugraph/
kabexnuf: 20 yaˆ altˆ‰ da hemen takipte
alichengiz: NS 4♠ kˆ¶rler ˆ§ekilirse, aksi halde
+1
ergur: kuzey 3nt oynar muhtemelen
alichengiz: 2 renkli ellerle oynamak isteriz ve
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MolvaM: kavga olmuyor mu yani masada? kenan?
tez: ♣ ve ♠ empaslari gecmedigi icin defans 2
hazir ele sahip..
MolvaM: evet vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…z de ˆ imdi
teyid etti. 3 forsing olarak algˆ‰lanmˆ‰ˆ Nur
tarafˆ‰ndan
arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detay bilgilere (acik ve
bayan) http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ link’inden
ulasabilirsiniz
ergur: kuzey e 4
alichengiz: .
ovncylmz: 2♠ ya da 3♠ denebilir
alichengiz : rakip oyun aˆ§ˆ‰nca ˆ lemden
umudunu kesip 4 ♠ diyebilir
tez: serap carfi 5 diyecek sanirim.uygun zon
durumunda..p
paksoy: bu daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰ma 6 tref ve kˆ¶r oluyor
tez: ♣ empas geciyor ozur...o halde 6♣ oluyor
sas2nt: onceden aˆ§mayˆ‰p sonra 3 ne demek
bu zon durumunda
MolvaM: evet birˆ§ok seyircimiz soruyor Ataˆ§
doˆ ru mu yaptˆ‰ yani diye
ovncylmz: diger masa 3nt de kalmis 1.boardda
kabexnuf: selamlar
MolvaM: son 8 takˆ‰m tˆ…rkiye aˆ§ˆ‰k 4lˆ…
takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonluˆ u iˆ§in yrˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yorlar
sas2nt: elimi gˆ¶rmedim mi demek..1N
sas2nt: rakip 6♣ yapˆ‰yor
MolvaM: hayˆ‰r yapmadˆ‰
ergur: 1sp ye 2h daha iyi olurdu
pikonlu: .
alichengiz: Vera ve Lale, Milli oyuncularˆ‰mˆ
‰z, ˆ ampiyonluklarˆ‰ var, partnerlikleri eski
sayˆ‰lˆ‰r
alichengiz : kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ Rualar kˆ¶tˆ…
yerlerde, 3nt ninveya hehangi bir zonun ˆ ansˆ‰
yok
alichengiz: 1 e dbl 4 lˆ… ♠ demek genellikle
hobakan: Antalya’ya bile gitmedik.:)
alichengiz: eli kaybet ortaˆ ˆ‰ kaybetme psikolojisi
begse: mrb
ozgull: salvo hemen sinirlenme daha iki bord
oldu :)..2♠
tez: 3♣ diyerek elini anlattˆ‰ zaten
tez: 1♠ acislari yakinda 6 puandan baslayacak:)
tez: selamlar..iyi aksamlar:)
alichengiz: Eymen Bedir, Midyat’ta yaˆ ˆ‰yor
arigun: bakalim kolbasti 6 diyecek mi
vugraphzpv: biraz konuˆ malar geˆ§ti tabi:)
alichengiz: veya dbl atˆ‰p cue bid vs ˆ¶yle gider
4♠’e
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alichengiz: evet +1
ergur: baˆ kanˆ‰m hg
paksoy: senin bilmen lazˆ‰m Salvo :)..2N
tez : 3 acacak elim bile yok yada 4lu major
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oldugu icin zayif acmadim demek
sas2nt: halbuki 3 aˆ§lsaydˆ‰ rakip 4 majorler
deyip 4 oynanacaktˆ‰
arigun: ♠ atagi ? , guney tarafindan 6 ve 6♣
olur ama guneyin ♣ i kapmasi mumkun dgil
vugraphzpv: ilk tur pas geˆ§ildi
vugraphzpv: ilk board
MolvaM: hani Uˆ ur Dˆ…ndar bazan mikrofonu
uzatˆ‰p sorar: beyefendi bu yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰z ˆ§
ok yanlˆ‰ˆ deˆ il mi acaba diye
arigun: 31c forcing degilse biraz az oldu...
ergur: hg :)
alichengiz: Merhaba tez :)
vugraphzpv: iyi akˆ amlar hoˆ geldiniz
relrikas: herkese slm
MolvaM: grandˆ leme battˆ‰ktan sonra kavga
edilmesini ˆ¶zellikle teˆ vik etmekte yarar var
bence
arigun: haldun simdi cok rahat diyecek
MolvaM: briˆ§ seyirci sporu malum
alichengiz : 3. kˆ¶rˆ… alamˆ‰yorlar, tersten
oynanmayacaˆ ˆ‰na gˆ¶re
vugraphzpv: 2♠ 5 5 el demek..p
tez: asˆ‰nˆ‰ cekmeyen yasˆ‰nˆ‰ ceker
alichengiz: Dilek Ve Nihal ˆ Zmirli oyuncular,
eski ortaklar ve arkadaˆ lar :)
alichengiz: 2-3 daha gˆ…venli bir ihaleydi
fahir: Selam Mehmet hoˆ geldin
alichengiz: Merhaba mehmet :)
alichengiz: Salvolarˆ‰ mˆ‰ tutacaksˆ‰n yine :)
alichengiz: arkadaˆ larˆ‰ ile bir takˆ‰m kurmuˆ
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hobakan: evet.. elin yenisi hemen gelir ama ortaˆ
ˆ‰n yenisi kolay bulunmuyor.:)
alichengiz: alˆ‰p ♠ asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰karˆ‰yor
arigun: bence 3 acilsaydi guneyin 4 suna
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Serap 5 diyecekti..p
tez : ilk ♠ e yerden vale koymasi gerekiyor
eminenin
arigun: ozgur goksel hosgeldin
arigun: cogu cift burada 4. renkten sonraki fitleri
forcing oynuyor
nafiz : Tˆ…rkiye brici adˆ‰na moral verici
haberler
tez: ♠ asˆ‰nˆ‰ cekmezse badem olacak
ovncylmz: dogu bati 3nt oynayacak gibi
arigun : hem ♠ 5 tane hem ortaginin splinter
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renginde puan yok
alichengiz : ˆ imdi
ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰nca fazla
yapmak biraz zor
arigun: north tarafindan oynanan slamler batiyor,
♠ atak edilirse tabii ki....p
vugraphzpv: ♠ ataˆ ˆ‰ 9. lˆ¶ve olacak sanˆ‰rˆ
‰m
arigun: evet bir yanlis anlasma oldu galiba, belki
Ela puanini yanlis saydi...
alichengiz: diˆ er taraftan 2 kˆ¶r yapˆ‰yorduk
bile ˆ§ˆ‰ksa
alichengiz: baˆ ka vermez artˆ‰k.. 7
tez: normal olarak lerin uzerine oynayacak ve
batacak.. 5
fahir: Mehmet, Hayati ve Ali Cengi 3 yorumcumuz
hoˆ geldiniz
alichengiz: diˆ er oyuncular ˆ stanbul aˆ ˆ‰rlˆ‰
klˆ‰, Bˆ…lent Aslan, izmir’de yaˆ ˆ‰or
alichengiz: koz ataˆ ˆ‰ yapˆ‰labilirse 4 ’ˆ…n
ˆ ansˆ‰ yok
hobakan : herkese merhabalar, hepiniz hoˆ
geldiniz
tez: salvo 3 acilsaydi belkide 6 ya suruklenip
yapacaklardi:).. 4
paksoy: kˆ¶r batˆ‰yor da 6 tref batmˆ‰yor ˆ§ˆ
…nkˆ… vale pik geliyor
MolvaM: bu arada vugraf operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…zˆ…n
adˆ‰ Kenan. kendisine teˆ ekkˆ…r ediyoruz :)
tez: onu reha muhtar daha guzel yapar
alichengiz: ♣ durumu bilinirse ♠ ataˆ ˆ‰ndan
sonra 3nt kolay ve fakat zor
vugraphzpv: hoˆ geldiniz syn ˆ zgˆ…r BAKAN
MolvaM: gˆ…nˆ…n ilerleyen saatlerinde aˆ§ˆ‰k
dˆ¶rtlˆ…lerden de vugraf yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰z
olacak
alichengiz: son durum az ˆ¶nce ilan edildi, biraz
daha seyirci gelince bir daha ilan ederiz
vugraphzpv : bende ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim
murat abi.. T
MolvaM: soner iyi bir atak yaptˆ‰
alichengiz: ♣ yi bilemezse karo antresi yˆ‰kˆ‰
lmadan ♠ler saˆ lanˆ‰yor
MolvaM: Nevzat’ˆ‰n pikler ˆ§ekilirken bˆ…tˆ…
n trefllerini tutmasˆ‰ gerek
tez: yerin uzun rengine ulasmasina engel olmaya
calisiyor..♣Q
tez: acˆ‰ var mˆ‰ acˆ‰..♣K
MolvaM : ama pikler 4-3 olduˆ u iˆ§in oyun
batmayacak
alichengiz: blokaj var pikte
alichengiz: Salvo
yu almayacaktˆ‰ 2 tur,
antre sorunu var
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alichengiz: almayacaktˆ‰r
alichengiz: Gˆ…neyde 3. bir
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§in,
‰ydˆ‰
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arigun: 1♠ acisindan sonra da soylenme ihtimali
fazla
paksoy: kˆ¶r vermez oluyor..♣A
arigun: 3 -4 -5 dan sonra north’un isi zor,
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tez : © rua cekip yere dogru oynamak daha
guvenliydi..3¨ ile araya girende tek onore karsi
tedbir
sas2nt: bence rejin el ile 4♣ demek lazˆ‰mdˆ‰
sas2nt: o zaman 6 ♣ oynanabilinirdi
tez: dam vale yada 10ludan biri gelirse dogudan
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yere dogru oynayip 6 koymak gerekiyordu.dogu
alabiliyorsa renk partaj demektir
sas2nt: 6 de oluyor
MolvaM: bu sefer toplam 25 puan var ama 9 eli
toplamak ˆ§ok da kolay deˆ il gibi
MolvaM: pikler ve karolar bozuk
arigun: turnava ile ilgili detay bilgilere, mac
sonuclari, butler vs. asagidaki linkten ulasabilirsiniz
arigun: 5♣ harici butun zonlar batiyor
kabexnuf: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m 15.30 daki maclarda ikisi
mac yaptˆ‰. Sonucu biliyor musun kenan?
alichengiz: -3 500 iyi baraj 4 imp ..♣2
alichengiz: sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yorbir miktar Doˆ u
vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m karoyu doˆ ru oynayacak..
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fahir: herkese Merhaba
alichengiz: mERHABA bAˆ KAN :)
nafiz: meraba baˆ kan
alichengiz: gˆ…zel Organizasyon iˆ§in teˆ ekkˆ
…rler
hobakan: hoˆ gˆ¶rdˆ…k sevgili operatˆ¶rˆ…mˆ…
z.
alichengiz:
ler saˆ lanamˆ‰yor
vugraphzpv: turnuva ile ilgili bilgilere bu linkten
ulaˆ abilirsiniz.. 2
vugraphzpv: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/
vugraphzpv: koray sanˆ‰rˆ‰m 25 5 bitti maˆ§
larˆ‰
vugraphzpv: u21 ile u26 arasˆ‰ndaki maˆ§
kabexnuf: sagol
ergur: slm
alichengiz: ˆ imdi alˆ‰p, Karo oynayayacak sanˆ
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alichengiz: ama ˆ¶nce ♠ asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ˆ‰karmalˆ
alichengiz: yine de sorun yok
vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son maˆ§ˆ‰na girilirken
son durumlarˆ‰ tekrar vereyim
hobakan: lˆ…tfen:)
alichengiz: Teˆ ekkˆ…rler Kenan
vugraphzpv: kolbastˆ‰ 201 puanla 1.
vugraphzpv: peksen 195 puanla 2.
vugraphzpv: izmir belediye beyaz 193 puanla 3.
vugraphzpv: midyat bel. 190 puanla4.
vugraphzpv: matrix 183.13 puanla 5.
paksoy: tref yerine karo oynasa ilginˆ§ olabilirdi..
Q
arigun: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_
event.php?event=184&stage=397
fahir: Bayan 4lˆ…de son maˆ§lara girdik, Ege A
grubunda 1. ˆ nci Ayakkabˆ‰ 2. sˆ‰rada
ergur: her ataga 6 oluyor
MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda senyˆ¶r milli line up bugˆ…n
ilginˆ§
arigun: ♣ partaj olunca (2-2) 5♣ sorunsuz oldu..
♠6
alichengiz: alˆ‰nˆ‰p koz oynanˆ‰rsa yine
batar
ovncylmz: 5tur kor cektikten sonra.. 6.. 4
vugraphzpv: u26 yendi
ovncylmz: pik ruayi ceker mi ki
alichengiz: Nevzat bey yei gˆ¶rˆ…nce, teˆ ekkˆ…
r etmiˆ , masa kahkahadan kˆ‰rˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ :).. J
MolvaM: +1 i ˆ¶nlemek kolay deˆ il gibi
MolvaM: evet seyircilerimiz hatˆ‰rlattˆ‰lar.
trefller de bozukmuˆ :) ˆ§ok mersi.. K
fahir: tˆ…m katˆ‰lˆ‰mcˆ‰lara ve izleyicilere
Federasyon olarak biz teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz
hobakan: ˆ u anda turnuvada 1. sˆ‰rada ˆ zmir B
ˆ…yˆ…kˆ ehir Belediye var.
alichengiz: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰yor, Dururyy
Nikli seyircinin notu
alichengiz: demek istediˆ im, elinizde sek A10
Aj varsa nt demek iˆ§in hevesli olabilirsinz di
vugraphzpv: Tˆ…rkiye Sampiyonasˆ‰nˆ‰n son
ugraph maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ izliyoruz
begse: 5 -3 iyi ama belki 3 kˆ¶r 1 ♣ alacak 4
imp kazanmak iˆ§in fazla riskli..♠7
tez : biraz erken batti.vale ♠ koysaydi sansi
vardi..♠4..♠K
alichengiz: kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n gruplarˆ‰
ndan 4’er takˆ‰m finale ˆ§ˆ‰kacak, 4’er takˆ‰
mlˆ‰ 2 grup kendi aralarˆ‰nda oynayacak, 1. ler
final 2. ler 3-4 oynayacaklar
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hobakan : kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ 2. sˆ‰rada
bulunmakta
vulkan: ♠ Damˆ‰ ruayla ezip tref empasˆ‰
yapmak gerekecek
MolvaM: eˆ er pikler 5-2 olsaydˆ‰ ercan kuru
tabii ki hemen trefl asˆ‰nˆ‰ girip oyunu batˆ‰r
ˆ‰rdˆ‰..♠2
alichengiz: ˆ imdi battˆ‰..♠T
alichengiz: -3 filan olacak
tez: vugrafta oynamak oyuncular uzerinde buyuk
baski..benim ogrenciler bundan sonraki maclarinin
vugrafta oldugunu ogrenince simdi oynayacaklari
maci unuttular:)..♠Q
tez: 22 puanlik guzel bir 6♠:)
alichengiz: ˆ anslˆ‰ el
vugraphzpv: senyˆ¶r milli 183 puanla 6.
MolvaM: evet deklaran kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰ boˆ lamasa
idi oyunu yapacaktˆ‰ muhtemelen ama kˆ¶rlerin
bloke olduˆ unu bilemezdi. yani oyunu makul..
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MolvaM: deklaran acaba kˆ¶rler partaj deˆ ilse ne
yaparˆ‰m diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor
MolvaM: normalde bizler falay-baˆ aran korkutekinci ˆ§iftlerine alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰z
kabexnuf: zaten sˆ‰kˆ‰sˆ‰yor..♠9.. T
alichengiz: 9 lu piki bloke etmesi iyi
alichengiz: 4-5 batar diyen seyirciler var, iyi
defansa ve oyuna -3 oluyor, defans atlarsa veya
oynayan oyun deˆ iˆ tirirse bu deˆ iˆ ir
ergur: kibardˆ‰r nevzat abi ortaklarˆ‰la iliˆ
kileri ˆ§ok iyidir:)
kabexnuf: bilmese bile as trefi aldˆ‰ktan sonra
karoya yatar.. 8.. 7.. 5
alichengiz: ˆ u anda -3 ˆ§izgizinde
ergur: kozdan ˆ¶nce cl oynamalˆ‰ydˆ‰.. 3
hobakan: ilgili linkleri birazdan yayˆ‰nlayacaˆ ˆ
‰z
MolvaM: nafiz zorlu’ya hoˆ geldiniz diyelim hep
beraber.. 3
alichengiz: artˆ‰k bu maˆ§tan sonra grup filan
kalmˆ‰yor
ergur: 3 den fazla batmaz.. Q.. A..♣9..♣5
MolvaM: 21 puanlˆ‰k 3nt oldu. ama 26 puanlˆ‰
k 3nt batmaya doˆ ru gidiyor. tˆ…m briˆ§ konuˆ
malarˆ‰nˆ‰ onˆ¶r puanlarˆ‰ ile sˆ…sleyenler iˆ
§in ilginˆ§ 1 durum..♣4
begse: slm lar..♣T
ovncylmz: pik ruayi atar mi?
hobakan: Trefl Rua ile bitmiyor bir de 9 luya
karar verecek
ovncylmz: bir wd daha.. 9..♠3.. 8
vugraphzpv: bˆ¶lesi daha gˆ…venli oldu tabi
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alichengiz: Kenan, Cardingleri nasˆ‰l ˆ§iftlerin?
ovncylmz: kenan pik ruayi atmis olmasin?
alichengiz: A grubundan 6 takˆ‰lm B grubundan
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2 takˆ‰m, yarˆ‰n bu 8 takˆ‰m.. J
vugraphzpv: eritman yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran zabunoˆ lu
takip eden takˆ‰mlar
alichengiz: Danish usˆ…lˆ… kendi aralarˆ‰nda
oynayacaklar
alichengiz: yine 4 maˆ§
vugraphzpv: b gurubunda ise
hobakan: danish derken?
vugraphzpv: antalya BK 199 puanla 1.
vugraphzpv: no name 197 puanla2.
vugraphzpv: ˆ§imentaˆ 195 puanla3.
hobakan: ˆ imdi
vulkan: evet..♠A..♠5.. K
MolvaM: ne iˆ i vardˆ‰ o trefl 8’linin orada?
hobakan: bu arada herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n hepiniz
hoˆ geldiniz diyelim
MolvaM : bu gˆ…nˆ…n ilk maˆ§ˆ‰. sadece
bayanlar maˆ§ˆ‰ var
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 2N
c 3♠
2
2
this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
3
139
Geologi Timah
109
W 4
180
N
-1
100
♠ K J10 8 6 5 3
7
A54
♣K9
♠A 9 4
N ♠Q 2
Q10 9
K865
W E
Q976
J10 3
S
♣ Q10 3
♣A J 7 5
♠7
A J 432
K82
♣8 6 4 2
400
W: Julius A G
W
4
8
5
5
5
9
5
7
7
7
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
1
p
p
p
2♠
p
3♣
p
3♠
p
p
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1N
X
p
p
¨J,K,7,4
¨T,2,6,A
¨Q,5,3,8
§3,K,A,6
#1 E::
#3 E::
#5 W::
#7 W::
ª7,4,J,Q
ªT,2,§2,ªA
¨9,§9,7,4
§5,8,T,ª3
#2 S::
#4 N::
#6 W::
#8 E::
Walddk2: England 41 behind against Wales, so
only a miracle can take this away from EBU now
mariner1: well this is round robin so a little lee
way but not much
werge: Another part-score
henrik_r: And DQ is, IMHO, the obvious lead
hedyg: we hold on to whatever we can grab!
vugraphzpe: ulrik looked comfy throughout the
board
lestergold: 4h for N/S
ady: n/s may get to 4 here
asig: Nice 6♣ for NW :)
roswolf: 4 LIKE;Y HERE..1
mollerjep: i think it’s a bad agreement....but here
it works!
santyclz: Even "the q lies over the j" so drop is
100%.
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ady: looks like 1NT e/w..p
Walddk2: And Wales could well overtake England
for the runner-up spot..1N
bcallaghan: Part score battle here if E-W can
find their spade suit.
idc: I think Scotland had the luck Fri & Sat, with
opps playing poorly
galadriel: Shows that England has strength in
depth
mariner1: well we could see action here..........
chen_xin: ´¿´·´¿´·´ ˆ 2´‰ˆ ˆ ´¥ˆ ˆ“ˆ ˆfl´»´»ˆ ˆ ´”ˆ‡ˆ
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hedyg: right
lestergold: should do they have the values will
lose a club a spade and a heart
keylime : 1 ♣ is precision, double is a mathe
takeout for majors here..2♠
chick: morning people are normally alert from
about 7am to 7pm. night people are normally
alert from 3pm to 3am
panja : y, what about those who are used to
having a longish afternoon nap? ...is that why it is
so late in Portugal? Is an afternoon break the
norm there?
idc: but against England you need to create your
own luck to an extent..p
sybarra: at a not too high of level (like 1)
joest: the club guess is what thishand is about
panja: and the lead might give that away..p
asig: E is trying to produce som imps, hence the
light opening
Walddk2: I would have opened the South hand. 5
controls and 5-4 shape. What about you, panel?..
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idc: ok, that’s me 1-0 ahead on sporting cliches,
someone else’s turn now...
mcarroll: the def may yet lead a ♣ to solve all
problems
roswolf: semi - psychic effort by west might have
struck gold
hedyg: 1 = 4+ cards, 10+hcps
lestergold: has to do the work but shouldnt be a
prob no nasty surprise
drg: even 2♣ is too high, despite the west hand
bcallaghan: One level too high, but still gaining
IMPs...p..3♣
idc: Yes for sure Roland, not even close. As 11
counts go that one is prime.
jbgood: difficult to fint the heart fit now
roswolf: well this might be ok
roswolf: :)
ady: will need to play with some care only 3
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losers but needs to ruffs to make 10 tricks
mariner1: 1N now shows positive response no 5
cards suits..p
galadriel: The boys done good...how about that?
..p
bcallaghan: I would have opened, but I count an
extra half point for each ace, so I would have had
a 12 count.
mariner1: N again needs to pass
chick : nap can help, but not really change it
much
mollerjep: Schaltz is famous for there slams....this
is NOT one of them
keylime: 2H doubled, some action already..3♠
panja: ah, did I spell it wrong?
mdgraham: this may have a problem on a diamond
lead, as there is no quick re-entry to the South
hand
sybarra: lead came from the other side in OR
much easier then
hedyg: tough decision in N
ady: good lead for declarer
lestergold: yes he has to ensure that he gets all
his extra tricks by ruffing but i think the latout
will allow this
lestergold: of course a thin contract on a worse
day would have no play
lestergold: but with trumps 3/2 spade ace right
and no overruff positions it should roll in
mariner1: this has some play..p
santyclz: They did that just to spite you...
sybarra: cards sit rahter nicely
hedyg: so much for making 3 s
viren169: Not a good contract as the cards lie....
joest: well a club won’t look so appealing after
the dummy is exposed..p
panja: after 4 ’s are cashed....I suspect there is
a rationale for placing the ♣Q with North....
bjacobs: North will never learn..p
roswolf: 9 or 10 tricks likely
hedyg: need to go -3 vs 3 =
lestergold: well the lead doesnt hurt but funnly
enuf doesnt actually give declarer an extra trick
keylime: it does if declarer is careful - this also
has the danger of 500 all over it if the ball is
dropped... J
bjacobs: Nor East
mariner1: well E helps out this time
viren169: yes...
panja: North is unlikely to hold a 4-card Major.....
K
viren169: North was worried about the vul to bid
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hedyg: of course, passed hand pd and all
viren169: and too many hearts to dbl
hedyg: double out of the question
ady: spade up
drg : hard to know what to shift to as north -
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continuing diamonds is safest.. 7
drg: while a spade would strike gold, a low heart
would let the 9 score in dummy to clear trumps
keylime: and declarer gets an early gift... 4
mdgraham : all down to how declarer plays
trumps now
panja: so he could have 3 or four Clubs...not 3 or
2..so is more likely to hold the ♣Q
mariner1: well it has lots of play now..♠7
galadriel: Wish i could say it was still early doors :
(..♠4
lestergold: yep
joest: i agree with that..♠J
lestergold: hes preparing the cross ruff of course..
♠Q
lestergold: wont touch trumps
ady: should take the club ruff before the spade
ruff
lestergold: oppos cannot really play trumps to
advantage
lestergold: maybe an original trump lead might
have been effective even if it ended up costing a
trump trick
werge: I fuly agree with mr. xin...!.. T
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henrik_r: So John how is your favorite in this
match?
ady: will need to finesse twice can do that.. 2..
6
panja: from either side...he can finesse twice
joest: he can pick up Qxxx either way
lestergold: well still a long way for the solo by
the fat lady
mdgraham: only clue is the 1 bid - .. A
ady: got to get 3 rounds of trumps for that to be
effective
keylime: I think he’s got to tap the dummy with
trumps here..♠T
keylime: A and diamond exit appears safest
mariner1: 1 ♠ gets ruffed and another on K♣
keylime: closed room started with board nine so
comparisons won’t come for a bit
mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for
BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the
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mollerjep: It’s very even....but my bet is Schou....also
the lobby. No download needed. Some need
mariner1: Flash Player 9, some don’t, Open one
browser window per table
bjacobs: North and East were both misled by
their partner’s bids on doubletons. However, in
neither case were South or West showing 3 card
support
mdgraham: West more likely to have the ace..♠
2
mcarroll: not now..♣2
drg: now spade spade diamond is best
panja: y..so better to play small from South hand,
isn’t it?..♠A
bjacobs: Well I was told that the Open Room
had English commentary, but maybe I am mistaken..
Q
panja: ♣T first time was better..now he will have
to open up some suit
santyclz: Even if it would be taken a coop rather
than the blacks.
hedyg: S can not have the A♣ or would have
opened
hedyg: so ♣ to the K is fine
santyclz: (as)
lestergold: and that may have been im;possible
on the layout
sybarra: nice pitch of the
.. 5.. 3
drg: or just spades
bjacobs: South was forced to do something. And
West had passed 1♠.. 8
ady: cahs K
ady: then ruff spade
lestergold: dont think it maters now
lestergold: may well end up with 11 tricks here
pentacon: Looks like a small devils coup :)
lestergold: the cards are smiling on declarer
werge: I was told the same.. 9
lestergold: the trump pips in both hands sitting
menacingly over the defenders truimps
jbgood: E in trouble - can get endplayed on the
4th spade now..♣9
santyclz: All the matchpoints for the ♠ endplay
of e...♣7
hedyg: no rush to ruff
panja: rather, with longer Diamonds, West is the
one more likely to be short in ..♣4
mdgraham: cross to a diamond and lead a small
heart towards the queen - but North going down
now
mdgraham: as West may have A, J, or 10 singleton
..♣3
because of the carryover
henrik_r: I think it will depend greatly upon how
much we see of Martin Schaltz - Rico Hemberg
and HC NIelsen - KA Boesgaard
mollerjep: and your favourite?
henrik_r: They have been a little inconsistent
during the season
keylime: and that should be 670 now..♣K
lestergold: are the ndefenders going to get any
tricks?..♣A..♣6
ady: looks like 11 tricks..♣5..♣8..♣T..♠3
lestergold: pity this isnt match points
lestergold: has to pitch the pesky spade
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NS:
EW:
o 3♣
c 2
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this/total IMPs
Geologi Timah
109
Mitra Buana
139
N 3
110
N 3
110
3
8
♠A4
4
Q
7
9
AK J 9
8
♣A87642
♠ K10 9 8 7 6 3
N ♠Q J
52
A J864
W E
Q32
10 5
S
♣J
♣K Q 5 3
♠5 2
4-5
8-9
K10 9 7 3
5
8764
3-4
♣10 9
4-5
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W: D Sacul
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N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
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3♣
ªQ,2,6,A
¨T,4,3,J
§2,Q,T,ª3
¨2,9,5,6
#1 E::
#3 E::
#5 N::
#7 W::
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E: T Asby
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§A,3,9,J
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#4 N::
#6 E::
#8 N::
MolvaM: bir sonrakiˆ maˆ§larda aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰
mla da katˆ‰lˆ‰yor
MolvaM: aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlarda ilk maˆ§lar
tez: hoˆ geldiniz:)
MolvaM: Nafiz zorlu ve tezcan ˆ en ustalar takˆ‰
mlarˆ‰nˆ‰ otomatik pilota baˆ layˆ‰p bize katˆ
‰ldˆ‰lar. teˆ ekkˆ…rler
vugraphzpv: ♠ atat olmasaydˆ‰ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m iˆ
i zordu
vugraphzpv: markalarˆ‰ saˆ landˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§
in artˆ‰k farketmedi
ovncylmz: 6 ve 4 vermis guney
tez: ♠ ler uygun olacak.. empasi gececek ve
partaj olacak
ergur : ben aˆ§ˆ‰k sˆ¶yliyeyim kolbastˆ‰
tutuyorum
alichengiz: klasik bir 3nt boardu
ergur: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… bu ara ˆ§ok moda
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alichengiz: :) kolbastˆ‰ ilginˆ§ iim
alichengiz: yorumcularˆ‰n amacˆ‰ sizlere bilgi
vermek oluyor
hobakan : bir ˆ§oˆ unuz tanˆ‰yordur ancak
birazcˆ‰k oyunculardan bahsederek baˆ layalˆ‰
m.
hobakan: Pekˆ en-Ozcan ortaklˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ istanbulda
ˆ§ok uzun sˆ…reden beri devam eden bir ortaklˆ
‰k.
alichengiz: diˆ er takˆ‰mlar eleniyor, yarˆ‰n
onlar 2 seanslˆ‰k board A Match turnuvasˆ‰na
katˆ‰lacaklar veya Antalya’yˆ‰ gezip dinlenecekler
alichengiz: "gerizekalˆ‰ 5 batˆ‰yor gˆ¶rmˆ…
yor musun?" demeden, ˆ¶nce sabˆ‰rlˆ‰ olun lˆ
…tfen :)
alichengiz: 6♠ NS
alichengiz: gelinirse; suya atsan oluyor cinsinden
bir el
ovncylmz: sonra 7..p
hobakan: eli rica edelim kenancˆ‰m
tez: selamlar:)..2 !
MolvaM: sorunsuz bir 4♠ geliyor merih tokcan
dan
alichengiz: % 8.795
tez: %5.54398765432 luk bi slem:)
alichengiz: :)
alichengiz : benden daha yetkin bir yorumcu
geldiˆ inde bˆ‰rakˆ‰rˆ‰m, hakaretemiz yazˆ‰
larˆ‰nˆ‰zˆ‰n bir anlamˆ‰ yok :)
hobakan: deˆ il mi paˆ am? gereksiz zamanlarda
gelen markalar kadar kˆ¶tˆ… birˆ ey yok:)
vugraphzpv : bayanlar final maˆ§ˆ‰nda son
durum ise
arigun: 4♠ de sorunsuz 4-1 ♠ e ragmen..
kabexnuf: 2d acisi etkili oldu
kabexnuf: bakalˆ‰m kontrat ne olacak
vugraphzpv: 2 Mlerden sonra
vugraphzpv: 2nt dedirse
vugraphzpv: 3 treften
vugraphzpv: 3♠ karodan ˆ lem ilgisi oynanˆ‰
yor
alichengiz: aldˆ‰rmˆ‰yorum
MolvaM: evet 5 karo baraj ihtimali var..2♠!
tez: acemileri ilk macta oynatmˆ‰yorlar
ergur: %100
vugraphzpv: Likom 115 Ege 48
alichengiz: 2♣ 2 3♠ sonrasˆ‰ gidilebilir ama
3♠ demeyebilir Hakan, gˆ…cˆ… az
MolvaM: Son devreye girerken durum: 1-Kolbast
ˆ‰ 273; 2-Pekˆ en 255; 3-Matrix 253; 4-Senyˆ¶
rler 251; 5-Noname 251; 6-Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran 246;
7-Midyat 240; 8-Zabunoˆ lu 218
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vugraphzpv: bayanlar final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n son
tura girerken ki durumu
1 1nt Dilek davet etmez sanˆ‰
rˆ‰m, ederse Nihal’in eli kabul eder..p
alichengiz: kabaˆ ˆ‰ oynamadˆ‰lar
ovncylmz: 4♠ in batma ihtimaline esit neredeyse
bu defansa:)
MolvaM : evet esasen 2 batmˆ‰ˆ olmasˆ‰
bekleniyordu ama
ergur: 6 h ama oynamalarˆ‰ kolay deˆ il
alichengiz: 3♣ ile try bid yapˆ‰p ˆ leme giderler
sanˆ‰yorum
begse: gidemezler zor
alichengiz: kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰na batar diyenler, ♣ Asˆ
‰na gider kaybˆ‰
MolvaM: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m artˆ‰k yok..p!
ergur: evet
hobakan: Istanbul kˆ‰ˆ dˆ¶rtlˆ… oynamˆ‰ˆ
seyircilerimizin mutlaka bilgileri vardˆ‰r.
alichengiz: J2NT ˆ§ok popˆ…ler oldu ˆ…lkemiz
bricinde
MolvaM: ˆ ikanlˆ‰ eller her zaman sorun ˆ§ˆ‰
kartˆ‰yor. bakalˆ‰m bu elde nasˆ‰l yapacaklar
alichengiz: 4 lˆ… tutuˆ ve 12+
alichengiz: 4+ tutuˆ demek daha doˆ ru
sas2nt: 3♠ demesi lazˆ‰m..3♣
tez: dbl=davet eli
ergur: dogru cl iki defa boˆ lasa sˆ‰kˆ‰ntˆ‰
olabilirdi
begse: sadece kˆ‰sa trialˆ‰ oynayanlar iˆ§in ˆ§
ok iyi el
alichengiz: aˆ§an oto splinter yapmayˆ‰ yeˆ ledi
alichengiz : karo’dan kaybˆ‰n yoksa ˆ lem
istiyorum demek olmalˆ‰ sistemlerinde
begse: 4 biˆ§ok kiˆ i iki renklioynar
alichengiz: naturalde bu 5-5 gibi uyarsa ˆ lem
olur
alichengiz: trefl ile yapˆ‰lsada ˆ§ok iyi ♣ desteˆ
i var, resmen kapatˆ‰yor eli, romex oynayanlar i
ˆ§in her iki tˆ…rlˆ… de mˆ…mkˆ…n
pass partaj, denirse 5 ♣
arigun : ♣ partaj,
oluyor ancak soylemek mumkun degil gibi..p
MolvaM: ♣Q ˆ§ˆ‰kayˆ‰m ve ortak el tutup
bana ˆ§aka versin ˆ eklinde
vugraphzpv: Mehmet ˆ AKˆ RLER hoˆ geldin
relrikas: slm herkese
relrikas: hoˆ bulduk
kabexnuf: selam
tez: 4♠ oynayacaklar saniyorum
tez: 4♣ diyecek kubac
alichengiz: Cardingler, standart carding, Nihal
Dilek O/E discarding oynuyor
alichengiz: 1
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alichengiz: ataklar zamanla belli olacak :)
alichengiz: Cuma gˆ…nˆ… ise, Tˆ…rkiye ikili
takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰ baˆ lˆ‰yor
sas2nt: dble card showing..p
sas2nt: 2♠ min NT 4♠ var demek
tez: 3 nasil fikir..♠ rengini ortaga oynatmak iyi
fikir olabilir dogunun eliyle
alichengiz: ˆ§ok yˆ…kseldiler
tez: h goksu 2♠ in extra vaadettigini dusundu
ergur: 3nt iˆ§inmi
alichengiz: free sekansta 1♠ eyince 2♠ normal
alichengiz: kˆ¶r bilinirse 7 oluyor ve fakat Koz Q
dˆ‰ˆ ardayken 7 oynamazlar diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…
yorum
ergur: cok dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ…ˆ ˆ…ne gˆ¶re
MolvaM: osmanˆ‰n 6piki diyebilmesi iˆ§in karo
as ve ruasˆ‰nˆ‰ bilebilmesi gerek
alichengiz: geliˆ melerini herkes farklˆ‰ oynuyor
MolvaM: bu da pek kolay deˆ il
alichengiz: burada natural konuˆ uyor Osman ˆ¶
zcan
arigun: simdi N 3♣ derse bir ihtimal var..p
arigun: 3 ?
vugraphzpv: ♣ yi bilirse yapar oyunu
tez: ♠ tuttum ♣ konrolu var..elim iyi anlaminda
alichengiz: 1l’lu ♠ pasiv atak
alichengiz: 10’lu
ovncylmz: 5 * deyip koz dami sorusu
alichengiz: 4nt RKCB yedi
alichengiz: 5♣ 1-4
MolvaM: veya ben el tutarsam kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k karo
ile ortaˆ a geˆ§ip ˆ§aka alayˆ‰m dedi..♠Q
vugraphzpv : evet o zaman kozlarˆ‰n partaj
olmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰mdˆ‰
alichengiz: baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰da oluyor
alichengiz: 1nt 2nt ve 4-6 nt ye pasiv 3 nt ye
Agresiz ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰yor genellikle
tez: baski altinda verilmis ifadeler gecersizdir
relrikas: muhtemel 4lu major soruyorlar
alichengiz: "kolbastˆ‰, Gˆ…rcˆ… kˆ¶kenli bir
oyundur ve kopyadˆ‰r" diye bilgi geldi, seyircilerden
relrikas: murat anter maˆ§a girmeden slm soylemimi
istedi sizlere
hobakan: Vahapoˆ lu-Aydoˆ du ortaklˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ ise
kˆ‰smen yeni.
hobakan: senelerce ayak olarak aynˆ‰ takˆ‰
mlarda oynadˆ‰lar ancak karˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰klˆ‰ pek
fazla rastlamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z bir ortaklˆ‰k
hobakan: ancak ˆ…st dˆ…zey turnuva tecrˆ…
beleri oldukˆ§a yˆ…ksek oyuncular
hobakan: Aydoˆ du kardeˆ lerden Dr. Nevzat
olan bu turnuvada U-28 dˆ…nya bireysel ˆ
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MolvaM: 3 karo bence gereksiz deklare idi..♠2
alichengiz: ˆ imdi 5 Q sorusu
MolvaM: sevgili seyircilerimiz neden trefl empasˆ
‰ attˆ‰ diye soruyorlar
MolvaM: diˆ er masada fikret-haldun ˆ§ok gˆ…zel
bulmuˆ ˆ lemi
alichengiz : 4+ ikinci rengini okumanˆ‰nda
faydalarˆ‰ var, bazˆ‰ ˆ§iftler bˆ¶yle oynuyor,
modifikasyon
MolvaM: keycardlarˆ‰ pekˆ en sorar ise bulmak
daha kolay
tez: 3♠ zona davetti..4.renk yapmak zon forsingi
oynuyorlar..♠6
ergur: :)
tez: baski altinda 2♠ bence min el gosterir
alichengiz: 5 !!
alichengiz: hˆ‰mm 1 isen kalaˆ‰ 4 isen yanˆ‰t
ver demek oldu
MolvaM: vahaboˆ lu-fikret aydoˆ du ortaklˆ‰ˆ ˆ
‰ da ˆ§ok alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z bir
ortaklˆ‰k ama bu turnuvada belli ki ˆ§ok baˆ arˆ
‰lˆ‰ olmuˆ lar
alichengiz: yabancˆ‰larˆ‰n deyimiyle, "here
we go"
ergur: sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ an deklareyi ˆ§ˆ¶zdˆ…
alichengiz: kendi sistemleri iˆ§inde iyi konuˆ
tular
arigun: karisik bir board oldu.....♠A
kabexnuf: DB nt ye sayˆ‰yla atak etmiyor
alichengiz: agresiv
alichengiz: sistemlerinde, 1
1 4 1 KC
olabiliyormuˆ demekki
ovncylmz: 4h sadece 18-19 dengeli 4lu tutus mu
acaba?
alichengiz: herkes farklˆ‰ oynuyor
ovncylmz: eger oyleyse 13+18=31 ve disariya ne
yazikki 3as ya da 2as bir rua sigmiyor:)
alichengiz: ben Gambling oynuyorum, uzun karo
4 ane ve 6-4 11-14 HCP
hobakan: gelelim maˆ§a:)
MolvaM: bizler 4 eli gˆ¶rˆ…yoruz ve trefl empasˆ
‰ atmasaydˆ‰ oyunu yapacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶rˆ…
yoruz
sas2nt: ama onlar terstenanlaˆ ˆ‰yorlar .. Q
arigun: sanirim imp’ler bu elde havada ucusacak
MolvaM: bu elde 3nt dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda oynanacak bir
yer pek yok. ortakta kˆ¶r deˆ eri gˆ¶rˆ…nce gˆ…
neyin ˆ lem hevesini de bir kenara bˆ‰rakmasˆ‰
yerinde olur
alichengiz: bu elle 2nt diyorum
MolvaM: ama deklaran maalesef 2 eli gˆ¶rˆ…yor
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paksoy: 2 ♠ max galiba:).. A
tez: rakipleri ataklarini sormak gerekiyor
kabexnuf: kucuk kuvvet vaad ediyor
kabexnuf: "attitude" dedikleri
arigun: diger eldeki yorum icin ozur, ben
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disarda olrak gorerek yorum yapmistim, uyaran
butun izleyicilere tesekkurler, her iki masayada
baktigim icin bazen kaciriyorum
tez: ♣ leri yere caktirmak garantili cozum yolu
MolvaM : dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile eleˆ tiri yaparken
kendimizi deklaran’ˆ‰n yerine koymakta yarar
var
alichengiz: emin deˆ ilim
alichengiz: dengesiz el sorsa lˆ¶ve saymak daha
kolay
MolvaM: artˆ‰k rahat bence
alichengiz: 5nt
tez: guney konr diyebilirdi bence..enazindan atak
yonlendirmek icin.. 3
tez: transferi 3 ile kˆ‰rmak boyle bir el gosteriyor
bizde
ergur: ilk defa oynuyorlar sisitemleri yok mumkun
oldugunca naturel oynuyorlar
tez: 4lu tutuˆ iyi
maximum el.. 2
MolvaM: transferi 4 majˆ¶r ile ne zaman kˆ‰
rsam benim ortaˆ ˆ‰m bana 0 puanlˆ‰k bir el aˆ
§ar
MolvaM: eˆ er bbo’da GIB’ler ile oynuyorsam da
kontr yeyip 1100 veririm
alichengiz: bozuk eller seti mi denk gelmiˆ ne
tez:
defansi super
alichengiz: kˆ¶rler iyi yerde olunca +1 oluyor
sorun yok
ovncylmz: evey simdi bricin guzel yeri:)
alichengiz: 2 KC ve bilinmeyen bir ˆ igan
alichengiz: onuda modifiye etmiˆ ler :)
tez: 9lu atagi 10 ve ustunde onor vaadediyorsa
vale koymak gerekiyor.. T
arigun: north elinden 4♠ e birakmamak lazim
heralde... baraj veya yapmaya (.. ki mumkun) 5
demeli
tez: hem caka ver ortagina hemde ilerde
al
fahir: Antalya’dan herkese merhaba.. 4
hobakan: Zaim 2 Karo cue-bid’inin karo fiti oldu
ˆ u varsayˆ‰mˆ‰ ile 4 e kadar ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰
MolvaM: deklaran’ˆ‰n oyunu gayet makul ve
mantˆ‰klˆ‰ fakat kaybeden biˆ r seˆ§enek idi
arigun: 5!
atagindan sonra batiyordu.. 3
fahir: trefl partaj olunca sorunsuz 10 lˆ¶ve
arigun: six four bid more hesabi :).. J
MolvaM: ters taraftan trefl oynanmasˆ‰n diye
karo damˆ‰nˆ‰ soner de arayabilirdi overcall
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yapana plase etti
alichengiz: ˆ imdi karo, yerin zayˆ‰fˆ‰
alichengiz: ortak pasiv atak yapˆ‰nca, diˆ er
renklerden gˆ…cˆ… olmalˆ‰
emre kaya: Eymen 5 pike iyi dbl dedi simdi kˆ‰
sa kˆ¶r arayabilir onda
ovncylmz: 7 diyen ortaga disarda koz dami varsa
ne denir: "ortak sen dedin sen bul:)"
alichengiz: 4. renk yapˆ‰p ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n ilk
rengini tutmak kuvvet gˆ¶steriyor
alichengiz: 6 ya gelebilirlerse yaparlar
vugraphzpv: bu maˆ§tan sonra A gurubundan 6
B gurubundan 2 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n final oynayacak
alichengiz: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ bˆ…tˆ…n
ayrˆ‰ntˆ‰lar sitede var, lˆ…tfen biraz karˆ‰ˆ tˆ
‰rˆ‰n
hobakan: atak ciddi problem
hobakan: ama kozda problem olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰
dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nerek koz ˆ§ˆ‰kabilir
alichengiz: koz ataˆ ˆ‰ defans iˆ§in en iyisi
hobakan: koz dam problemi olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰
biliyor rakibin
alichengiz: rkcb de, 6♣ ♣ ˆ igan ve 1-3 KC gˆ¶
sterir
MolvaM: bu ˆ ekilde oynayan ˆ§ok var. 2 keycard
ile 6 seviyesinde ˆ lem
MolvaM: kimisi ise tersini oynuyoˆ‰r yani senin
dediˆ in gibi
alichengiz: anlaˆ maˆ a baˆ lˆ‰ bunlar
tez: hosgeldiniz ..♣A
hobakan: ama ortakta tek terfl
hobakan: yazˆ‰yordum ki.....
alichengiz: sˆ…rekli otaklˆ‰larda herˆ ey deˆ iˆ
tirilebilir
alichengiz: ortakla anlaˆ mak ˆ¶nemli olan
alichengiz: KC= Key Card, koz Ruasˆ‰ dahil 5
ˆ¶nemli Kart var
tez: fahir uzumcu bric federasyonu genel baskanˆ
‰..♣3
alichengiz: :)
MolvaM: gerˆ§i tˆ…rkiyede eski ortaklˆ‰k ile
kastedilen ˆ ey "geˆ§en ˆ§arˆ amba kurulmuˆ
oratklˆ‰k" anlamˆ‰na geliyor. ˆ¶zellikle ˆ…st d
ˆ…zey oyuncularˆ‰mˆ‰z arasˆ‰nda ˆ iddetli ge
ˆ§imsizlikler olur ...
MolvaM: genellikle bir sˆ…re sonra
hobakan : piklerin 4-1 daˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ bir
kontrat izlemekteyiz..♣9
hobakan: karolar kapalˆ‰ olduˆ u iˆ§in kuvvetle
muhtemel yapˆ‰lacak..♣J
hobakan: ancak bir ara kˆ¶r rua’nˆ‰n da uˆ§
urulmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m
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alichengiz: koz ihalesine uzun rengin asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ
§ekmek kˆ¶tˆ… fikir deˆ il
hobakan: trefl yerde 2 li ise tek batarˆ‰ olabilirdi.
tez: cok iyi 4♠..kozlar kotu dagildigi icin batacak..
♣2
tez: ilk elde yerden oynayip elden 10 koymasi
gerekiyordu yapabilmek icin..oyle oynarmiydim..hayir
tez: el goren bulbullugu yapiyorum
MolvaM: 1 nolu bordda beklenen oldu ve altan
takˆ‰mˆ‰ 13 puan aldˆ‰
alichengiz:
yu dˆ¶nerken ufak dˆ¶nerse onˆ¶r
vaad etmeli, bˆ…yˆ…k dˆ¶nerse onˆ¶r yok
tez: buyuk harf kucuk harf noktalama isaretleri
konusunda ozurluyum..♣Q
tez: ♠ empas yapmazsa..♣T
tez: 2 de
verecek
tez: 3 acanda ♠ ler kisadir derler..baraj yapanda
♠ kisadir derler..kuzey baraj yapti
tez: peki nerde bu ♠ ler:)
ovncylmz: 2pik min dbl eli degil mi tezcan abi
standartta da?
MolvaM: artˆ‰k +1 diye el aˆ§abilir..♠3
MolvaM: eˆ er pik 8’linin farkˆ‰nda ise
vugraphzpv: batˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor
vugraphzpv: murat abi sˆ¶yleyeyim mi +1 baˆ ka
biˆ i olmaz diye:):)
MolvaM: :)
hobakan: o iˆ tasmam
hobakan: trefl ˆ§akˆ‰nca 10 lˆ¶ve oldu
alichengiz: ortakta tek olabileceˆ i iˆ§in ama bugˆ
…n o gˆ…n deˆ il
hobakan: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m Atalay ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n maj
ˆ¶rlerden birini seˆ§mesini istedi.
alichengiz: elden as ˆ§ekerek, iˆ§erdeki Jxxx ’e
ˆ¶nlem alˆ‰yor
alichengiz: Bravo doˆ rusu
tez: simdi yerden ♣ oynarsa kuzey cakmamali..
♠J
tez: havaya cakmak deniyor bizim koyde
alichengiz: deklarasyon sistemleri deˆ iˆ ik, ˆ§ok
yapay (artificiel) konuˆ ma var NS ˆ§iftinde
tez: koz oynamali simdi..♠5
vugraphzpv: kuzey oyuncusu elindek pik attˆ‰
ve dekleran direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rdˆ‰
tez: ♠ 6li cezali kart olacak
vugraphzpv: kuzey oyuncusu pik as duyduˆ unu
sˆ¶ylˆ…yor
tez: kuzey
asina ♠ vermis masada
alichengiz: ve koz ˆ§ekilip el aˆ§ˆ‰lacak
vugraphzpv: pik 6lˆ‰ cezalˆ‰ kart olarak karar
verildi..♠K
hobakan: ˆ imdi karolar oynanacak..♠4
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alichengiz: ˆ imdi +2.. 2
ovncylmz: board 2 diger masada 4H oynaniyor..
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hobakan: hala 3 batˆ‰rma ˆ ansˆ‰ var defansˆ
‰n
©A dan sonra defans simdi 2 ♠ alir halˆ
e geldi..¨5
alichengiz: ˆ§apraz ˆ§aka ile bˆ…tˆ…n lˆ¶veleri
alˆ‰yor (Cross Ruff)..¨6
arigun:
alichengiz: 8 5 li lkaroyu ♣ kˆ¶r ˆ§akmak iˆ§in
kullanmalˆ‰ tabi ki
tez: onor sur onor yapmamak hicbiseye kazandirmaz..
♣6..♣K.. 7
tez: ♠ oynandiginda ♠ 6 yi vermek zorunda..baska
♠ i olsada baska kart veremez
tez: rakip 2 dememis olsaydi 2♠ iyi el gosterirdi
fahir: selam Tezcan..♠7
ovncylmz: evet o zaman 1pikin maksimumu isen
zon olabilir
tez: koz 9 lusu terfi edecek
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NS:
EW:
o 3♣
c 2
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3
this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
139
Geologi Timah
109
N 3
110
N 3
110
3
8
♠A4
4
Q
7
9
AK J 9
8
♣A87642
♠ K10 9 8 7 6 3
N ♠Q J
52
A J864
W E
Q32
10 5
S
♣J
♣K Q 5 3
♠5 2
4-5
8-9
K10 9 7 3
5
8764
3-4
♣10 9
4-5
-100
W: Julius A G
W
p
1♠
p
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
p
1
p
1♣
2
p
p
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Ä,5,4,2
ªJ,2,K,4
§5,¨6,Q,§6
¨K,T,7,3
#1 E::
#3 N::
#5 E::
#7 E::
#9 N::
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§2,Q,T,©2
©5,Q,A,3
ª3,¨J,©4,7
§4,K,¨8,ª6
#2 N::
#4 N::
#6 W::
#8 W::
#10 N::
Walddk2: England just gained 14, so it’s not over
just yet. But they need many more of those
Walddk2: 27 down
keylime: that’ll settle one’s nerves if N-S
panja: well played...in the end
jbgood: W made it easy by throwing all his clubs
though
Walddk5: I guess Henrik knows his brother’s
system by heart
henrik_r: Nope
lestergold: 4s n/s looks infran
joest: is this a weak 2 bid if you play weak
twos?..p
lestergold: 3n also infran as cards lie but inferior
of course
ady: both 3NT and 4♠ make here 4♠ safest
Walddk2: If EBU gets 25, which seems likely,
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England must win the match by 53 IMPs..p
werge: Here a perfect 6
chen_xin: ns´·ˆ†ˆ ˆ ˆ ´»
mdgraham: if it’s A, you are OK, with the others
you have a principle of restricted choice guess
galadriel: wow..1♣
panja: on B3, cards well placed for NS...10 tricks
in possible
panja: should not be..
joest: you can have my rights to 2 for a very
very small amount of money :)
bobholl: 6 ♠ missed ?:)
panja: E will be tempted to pass..
sybarra: can they find the ♠ suit?
panja: in fact, pass is the optimal bid for E
mollerjep: but he loves his small brother by heart :-)
viren169: Nice slam hand now...
bcallaghan: Sporting Multi from North?..1
bjacobs: With no singletons, it’s not that easy to
reach sxlam here
mollerjep: and dont say nope :-)
henrik_r: A frisky repoening by Jacob Vul vs
non-vul
ady: looks like e/w can make 4♠..p
bobholl: if you guess well it is even 6 ♠
panja: even 12 tricks in ♠
Walddk2: 3rd vul against not anything is possible..1
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galadriel: May get the
lead :)
Walddk2: NV against vul rather
panja: well, no suitable way to get in after the 2
♠ opening....
sybarra: not easy to get in that auction
henrik_r: 2C shows majors and Rdbl asks East
to bid the longer
joest: second seat vulnerable partner should be
reasonable so I think it would be conservative of
east to pass..2
roswolf: this might be played in a partscore by
someone - bidding is feisty anyway
bcallaghan: Against 3NT South has to find an
inspired spade 9 lead to give it any problem, but it
can still make...p..p
sybarra: rather mild on bd 1 in the other room
played in 4 ♠
calabres: Im late, sorry :)
calabres : Hi all, please be welcome to the
PORTUGUESE GRAND PRIX 2009 - Estoril (
Teams). We are in 3th day of the event, round 7/
9.
roswolf: safe and conservative - yes
calabres: Link for Results at : http://www.freewebs.com
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galadriel: lol..p
Walddk2: sums up the day for Scotland
vugraphzkk: Table is slow ... maybe late fines
bjacobs: Made it look easy
bjacobs: And now the question was: should East
have tried 7 ?
panja: exchange A and ♣A in NS hands..and 4
♠ will make for EW....is anyone surprised that E
did not bid further even after 2nd seat Vul vs.
fresh 2♠ opening?
ady: might even make 6 spades
panja: I am told 2 shows + some suit...do we
have a confirmation of that?
santyclz: Staying out of the grand is the problem.
ady: 3NT alerted?
mdgraham: not particularly..♠Q
bobholl: should be otherwise i’d passs as east
sybarra: "we" only fibbed a little bit
sybarra: ty Luis
drg: everything onside here, so this shouldn’t be
difficult
keylime: nice lead by North, knowing there’s
some clubs to ruff in dummy, and by holding
onto their Aces...♠5
roswolf: west will go quietly ay these colours
mollerjep: thats also frisky by Ulrik
chen_xin: 2ntˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ´ ˆ ´ ˆ ˆ ˆ'´¿ˆ¶ˆ ˆ ´£´‹´‚ˆ‚ns´‰ˆ
´ ´‰´”ˆ ˆ ˆ›´¶´¤ˆ ´…ˆ ˆ¶´…ˆ ˆ ˆ ´¶ˆ ..♠8
henrik_r: Yes..♠A
santyclz: It’s a pretty good grand, all it needs is a
reasonable break.
hedyg: making 12 not so obvious with the 4-0
split
viren169: not a bad 7
hedyg: if you ruff 1♣ you lack an entry to the
s for discards
lestergold: 3n i think inferior bid because he has
no reason to believe that partner has fortificastion
in both clubs and hearts
mariner1: well a Rabbi has a good chance here..
♣A
lestergold: partner interestinmgly opting for the
spade contract with his 4333
asig: This is not the kind of boards the Schaltz
team is looking for
roswolf: hmm wrong again!:(..♣3
sybarra: do NOT go to casino today Geoffrey
santyclz: Today is a good day to stay away from
the track, Geoff.
henrik_r: I think this table will be way more
interesting
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henrik_r: At the other table we have four sound
players
sybarra: (lets see how I do)
roswolf: but he can just do a trump elopement i
mdgraham: East, to my mind, had a virtually
think
automatic pass..♣9
mdgraham: don’t like the term "automatic", but
this comes close
roswolf: good advice :(:)
henrik_r: Here we have four aggressive ones
mollerjep: yes, it’s a bidders game...
henrik_r : Well, only to a certain extend and
these four are usually living on the edge..♣J..
A.. 5
hedyg: 1 keycard.. 4.. 2
hedyg: that is no surprise to N
viren169: not easy to see 13 tricks from North’s
point of view
bjacobs: But not much reason to find the rabbinical
play..♣2
ady: looks like 12 tricks now
mariner1: Rabbi’s Rule = when K is singleton
play the Ace..♣Q
roswolf: declarer might make this if he leaves
trumps alone
roswolf: a
looks a good shot
mariner1: interesting lead from QJ ..♣T
mcarroll: There are traditionalists who argue that
you never open 2 if you also have 4♠
hedyg: just as well since they are not there.. 2
viren169: If North had made a try... South would
have accepted
sybarra: it looks like on bd 2, N did not take the
spade endplay opportunity ..♠J
hedyg: ok, now its cold
galadriel: S may be a little surprised by that..♠2
santyclz: Basically has to guess ♠j9xx in e.
mollerjep: a trick blew away
hedyg: just draw trumps, A and small
lestergold: 3n makes because decl;arer can duck
two rounds of hearts cutting them out of the
picture..♠K
sybarra : but I think their system is not the "
traditional" weak 2 bid ..♠4
santyclz : Which is not unreasonable on the
auction.
mcarroll: which certainly means that you never
get to 6♠.. 5
ady: might finesse spade
joest: i don’t get this.. Q.. A
roswolf: indeed.. 3
keylime: ouch, N-S are not defending well..♣5
ady: 6 spades not very good .. 6
sybarra: I think it will -2
sybarra: I am being told no by specs
sybarra: so maybe I dont go to the track either
roswolf: :)
jbgood: I think Patrick will make 9 tricks
bjacobs: Declarer is somewhat short of entries..
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sybarra: and claim coming
hedyg: claim 12
jbgood: ruff queen’..♠3
roswolf: patrick jourdain is a very fine dummy
player and i would expect him to make this
hedyg: :)
santyclz: He can make now by dbl-finessing ♠s
or ruffing the last ... J.. 4
sybarra: east feellng he may get stuffed in soon
roswolf: indeed
roswolf: i dont think it matters what east did..
7.. K.. T
bjacobs: Is there a vague chance that he is forced
into makling?.. 7
bjacobs: There is no way diamonds can be 3-3..
3
bjacobs: That would give North 2-5-3-3 - impossible
on the bidding
lestergold: whereas 4s makes because there are
ten top tricks
lestergold: slightly superior!
mollerjep: 10 tricks ..♣4
roswolf: nicely done..♣K
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NS:
EW:
o 4
c 4
4
this/total IMPs
Geologi Timah
109
Mitra Buana
1
140
N 4
620
N 5
650
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♠ AK 8
7
K Q10 9 6 4 3
10
10
10 9 8
7
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♠10 9 7 4 2
N ♠J53
A8
J52
W E
J3
A74
S
♣10 6 4 3
♣AK 9 8
♠Q 6
4
6
7
2
KQ65 2
3
♣Q J 7 5 2
6
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W: D Sacul
W
p
p
p
N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
N
E
1
p
3
p
p
p
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©7,8,T,J
©Q,2,§5,©A
©K,5,¨2,ª2
§J,4,©4,§8
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#3 S::
#5 N::
#7 N::
#9 S::
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1N
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#4 E:: J,6,4,A
#6 W:: 7,K,3, 7
#8 N:: T,7,K,3
#10 N:: 9,A,,
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tez: bilgisayarin dagittigi eller genellikle zevkli
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oluyor.. 8..♠6
MolvaM: gerˆ§i 4 kˆ¶r batmaz gibi duruyordu
ama
tez: 4
© u guvenli oynamamiˆ
kabexnuf: karoyu verse +1
alichengiz: oynayan son 6 nˆ‰n 5 ni aldˆ‰ bˆ¶
ylece, ♣ ye saldˆ‰rmak pek iyi fikir deˆ ildi
ovncylmz: 2.boardda diger masada cok basarili
bir kor atak
ovncylmz: hemen masadaki tansiyonu soralim
kenana..
alichengiz: 9 sayarken enpas atˆ‰lˆ‰r mˆ‰? 22 daˆ ˆ‰lma ihtimali, % 40, 3-1 % 50
vugraphzpv: herˆ ey ˆ§ok normal hiˆ§ bi sorun
yok
alichengiz: bazˆ‰sˆ‰ atar, bazˆ‰sˆ‰ ˆ§eker
alichengiz: empas atmak daha iyi
vugraphzpv: 15. boardla ilgili bi sorun var
ovncylmz : empas atmak daha iyi degil, AK
cekmiyor muyuz?
alichengiz: yˆ…zdelere bakˆ‰n
vugraphzpv: oynadˆ‰klarˆ‰ 15. board iptal
edildi ˆ uan onu oynuyorlar
alichengiz: kme kˆ‰zˆ‰yorsa ona atacak :)
vugraphzpv: sistemde olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in o eli g
ˆ¶steremeyeceˆ iz
alichengiz: bu el oynanacak mˆ‰ Kenan?
alichengiz: bilmiyorum, neden ipal edildiˆ ini,
orada Kenan bilgi verebilir
vugraphzpv: evet oynanacak bu el 15. boardtan
sonra
vugraphzpv: iptal nedeni 15. boardda ellerin daˆ
ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰yla ilgili bi yanlˆ‰ˆ lˆ‰k olmuˆ
alichengiz: bu el 5 EW’e, ♣ durumu bilinirse
5 NS’a
vugraphzpv: onun yerine hemen bi board yapˆ‰
ldˆ‰ ve oynattˆ‰rˆ‰yorlar
alichengiz : toplam lˆ¶ve kanunu, iki tarafta
toplam 21 koz var
alichengiz: bu 21 lˆ¶ve demek, Gˆ…neyde ˆ igan
ve tek var buda 1 lˆ¶ve extra
alichengiz: 22
vugraphzpv: 15. board 3nt oynadˆ‰lar ve eˆ it
oldu
carleone22: 15. bord butun masalarda toplatˆ‰ld
ˆ‰ bu masa ˆ‰le ˆ‰lgˆ‰lˆ‰ degˆ‰l
vugraphzpv: Eymen BEDIR gˆ…zel bir oyun
oynadˆ‰ gˆ¶stermek isterdik ama sisteme eklenmedi
ˆ i iˆ§in el gˆ¶steremedik
hobakan: maˆ§ˆ‰n 1 numaralˆ‰ elinde her 2 do
ˆ u oyuncu da 1 pik’e 2 kˆ¶r diye over-call yapˆ‰
nca ortaklarˆ‰ 4 kˆ¶re yˆ…kseldi ve egale oldu.
MolvaM: evet kesin anlaˆ ma olmadan bu tˆ…r
deklareleri vermek kˆ¶tˆ… sonuˆ§lar verebiliyor
MolvaM: oo iˆ te gˆ…zel bir grandˆ lem
MolvaM: yerde trefl as olmasa idi bulmasˆ‰ daha
zor olurdu herhalde.
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hobakan : 2 terfl aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndan sonra daha
alichengiz: 16 numaralˆ‰ elde, 4
rahat gelinebilir
arigun: murat 6♠ i oynarken saginda ♠Q veya
K den birini arayarak oynadi yuksek yuzdeli
oyun
alichengiz: 4 EW
MolvaM: bir baˆ ka dˆ…z board
alichengiz: NS ta sˆ…per
fiti
MolvaM: geˆ§meyen empas yok
alichengiz: ˆ anslˆ‰ 1 4
alichengiz: 1♣ 2♣ 3/4
tez: elle kartlari kardiginizda iyi karistiramiyorsunuz....p
ovncylmz: ortagin 1♣ pass 1 DBL ina ragmen:)
alichengiz: bitince konuˆ alˆ‰m lˆ…tfen, ˆ imdi
yetiˆ emem :)
ovncylmz: ama 2 araya girdikten sonra 3 /3♠
var daha iyi eller icin
alichengiz: Rokos 1 demesi 1♠ bir ˆ ey vaad
etmez o zaman 2♠ iyi el olurdu, bu sekansta
herkes elini konuˆ tu ama 3’e ˆ§ˆ‰kmalarˆ‰
fazla oldu
MolvaM: ˆ imdi muhtemelen her iki tarafta da
bulunabilecek tˆ…rde bir grandˆ lem
alichengiz: bence o dengeyle 3 iyi, gˆ…ny 4 der
sonra
vugraphzpv: sorunsuz bir 4♠ olur sanˆ‰rˆ‰
m..1
ergur: 7nt :)
vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ¶ˆ renmek
iˆ§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz
Itemid=99
hobakan: 2 numaralˆ‰ elde 1 lˆ¶ve fazla alan
pekˆ en takˆ‰mˆ‰na ilk imp yi kazandˆ‰rdˆ‰.
tez: 1♠ kontrlu oynanirmi dersiniz?..p
MolvaM: 1nt?
hobakan: ama 1 kˆ¶r tercihi benim standartlarˆ‰
ma gˆ¶re gayet normal
alichengiz: davet edilince, gˆ…zel daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ
‰yla zona geleceklerdir
alichengiz: EW ♣ yi kuvvetli mi oynuyor?
tez : simdi oyunun basinda kaybedilen 1 imp
oyunun gidisatini etkileyebiliyor..1N
MolvaM: bence de
tez: 4 e gelecekler saniyorum..p
arigun: 5♣ oluyor
alichengiz: NS FN oynuyor olmalˆ‰, 15 kadar
olabilir
tez: 4♣ 4 e transfer..
diˆ er masada 2 +! olunca 440 sayˆ‰ fak oldu
ve 10 imp ankara ekibine
alichengiz: 4 splinter
alichengiz: 4+ tutuˆ 10-12 onˆ¶r
kˆ‰sa
alichengiz : EW 4 lˆ… major ile aˆ§abiliyor,
Kanepe oynuyorlar
arigun: turnuva ile ilgili detaylari ; http://www.tbricfed.org.tr
adresinden bulabilirsiniz..3
tez: bende 1 nt acardiˆ‰m..siz?
arigun:
kontrati ♠ i oynayis tarzina gore 1
veya 2 batacak
vugraphzpv: 7 nin her tˆ…rlˆ…sˆ… bu el oluyor
galiba:)
ergur: evet ama fikrettten beklentim 7nt
vugraphzpv: pik hariˆ§ tabi ki:)
arigun: 2. maclar 15:30 da baslayacak, Major
Bogazici-Antalya takimlari vu-graphda olacak, 3.
maclar 18:00 de ve Likom-Mersin maci canli
yayinlanacak..p
MolvaM: evet
arigun: .. tˆ‰ :)
vugraphzpv: 4♠ de oluyordu piki bilirse
vugraphzpv: sry -!
alichengiz : staymandan geˆ§se 4-4 pik fiti
olabilir, 6-2 kˆ¶r olabilir
alichengiz: major aˆ§tˆ‰klarˆ‰nda yanda daha
uzun bir renk olabiliyor
tez: 3♠ denebilir batinin eliyle..4
MolvaM: beklendiˆ i gibi atabey takˆ‰mˆ‰ 15.
borddaki yanlˆ‰ˆ anlaˆ manˆ‰n mˆ…kafatˆ‰nˆ
‰ 10 imp kazanarak gˆ¶rdˆ…
ergur: 7 nt haldun abi diyecek
alichengiz: Acol benzeri
alichengiz: -3
tez: ♠ kisa cok iyi el..♣ tutusu..p
vugraphzpv: bu cevaptan sonra sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
memnun olmamˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r
ovncylmz: bu da gazilli galiba, ya natural trefller,
ya da kuvvetli herhangi bir el
ovncylmz: 4h=13-15 3lu tutus
alichengiz: ♠ ataˆ ˆ‰ olmazsa ♣ pasˆ‰ ile 6
mˆ…mkˆ…n
alichengiz: 3
yˆ…ksek
alichengiz : teki beˆ eniyor ama ˆ lemi force
edecek gˆ…cˆ… yok
alichengiz: ˆ imdi 5 gelir Hakandan ˆ§ok kozu
var
tez : 2 naturel renk..vaadettigim rengi kim
soylerse soylesin..bu renk benim rengim demek..cuebid
yapmak isteseydi acis rengini soylerdi..p
arigun: south elinden 5♣ biraz fazla oldu dengeli
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¨K ve Qxxxxx fit iyi muhakkak ama ....
arigun: deklere edilebilise 6♣ de oluyot galiba
tez: 2nt as ikili ile iyi konusma degil..naturel 2
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arigun: sanirim 3 transfer
hobakan: Murat Abi seneye bi ikili oynayalˆ‰m
bari biz. bak ne gˆ…zel anlaˆ ˆ‰yoruz
MolvaM: sˆ…rkontr ile 1. tur kontrolu gˆ¶sterse
idi
MolvaM: :) bence de
arigun: haldun pass demeyi dusunuyor heralde...
tez: gitti 800..p
arigun: zonda ucuz atlatildi..
MolvaM: 11 imp
MolvaM: ˆ imdi kuzeyden 2 pik mi? yoksa 3 kˆ¶r
smolen mi?
alichengiz: deˆ ildir
alichengiz: 3 lˆ… olabilir diye alert edilmiˆ tir
ovncylmz: hmm
hobakan: 1 Tefl- 1 Karo ˆ…zerine dengeli elle
majˆ¶rˆ…n sˆ¶ylenmediˆ i naturel sistemler var.
MolvaM: bu 5♣ herhalde exclusion blackwood
idi?
hobakan: evet sˆ…rkontr ile 1.tur gˆ¶sterse idi
4NT ile sorabilirdi.
alichengiz: maykˆ‰ls (michaels) majorler gˆ¶
stermenin en basit yˆ¶ntemi, rakibin aˆ§tˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
minˆ¶rˆ… 2 diyerek sˆ¶ylemek yetiyor
tez: ♠ atagi batiriyor 6♣ i..♣A
arigun: seyircilerden bazilari 4♠ oneriyor west
eliyle
tez: 6♣ oluyor..oynayan icin hersey uygun
tez: ben pas derdim simdi batinin eliyle
tez: slem kacirirdik:)
vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m ˆ lem hayali kurulmaya
baˆ ladˆ‰
alichengiz: 2 demesi lazˆ‰m aksi halde Nihal’
in
sas2nt: seyredenler de salvo DBL yasakladˆ‰
diyecekler..♣2
arigun: 5 imp lik hasar ucuz oldu bu el icin :)
MolvaM: alttan aldˆ‰
alichengiz: 2 , 1 ♠, 2♣ veriyor ve -1
alichengiz: defans yapmak istemeyecektir
alichengiz: 6 -1 veya 2 ♣ durumunu bilmesine
baˆ lˆ‰, Hakanda kˆ‰sa olunca, ♣’nin uzun
olma ihtimali artar
alichengiz: tabi Aydoˆ du kardeˆ ler ˆ¶yle oynuyor,
Murat ile ˆ¶yle mi tam emin deˆ ilim
ovncylmz: bu sekanslarda deklarasyonu guvenerek
yapmak iyi..♣3
arigun: 4♠ de
kupu var ve karo vermekten
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kurtulamiyor
tez: ♠ oynamazsa sorun kalmayacak
alichengiz: Nihal Dilek komplike sistem oynamazlar
tez: baris ve kasapoglu nasil oynuyor bilmiyorum
ergur: muratla oynamˆ‰yorlar cengiz
MolvaM: doˆ u 4-4 majˆ¶r gˆ¶sterdi bu deklarede..
3
MolvaM: ve ˆ imdi kuzey 8 oynayˆ‰nca doˆ
uda KQJ anlaˆ ˆ‰lacak
MolvaM: yani nur kumkale daha 1. lˆ¶vede tˆ…m
daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰ biliyor olmasˆ‰ gerek
MolvaM: yakˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda zondayken zon ka
ˆ§ˆ‰rmayayˆ‰m deyip smolen yapan ˆ§ok ˆ§ˆ‰
kar bu elle
ovncylmz: yuzunuzde bir sikinti falan olursa
guneyden dbl atan cok rakip cikar
kupunu alici koz la yapiyor
arigun: 5♣ de
ovncylmz: her sey normal o zaman:)
alichengiz: olabildiˆ ince basic
alichengiz: bazˆ‰ ˆ§ifler bunu, limitli oynuyor,
8-12 veya 15+ gibi aralˆ‰ktaki ellerle ♠ deyip
sonra kˆ¶r diyorlar
alichengiz: kozlar alˆ‰nˆ‰p, yan renge giryor,
her ˆ ey iyi olunca nema problema
vugraphzpv: o zaman sen kesin dbl atardˆ‰n ˆ¶v
ˆ…nˆ§..♠8
ovncylmz: perde nerde kenan su anda?
vugraphzpv: g_b
vugraphzpv: k_d
ergur: bu benim iˆ§in hayalkˆ‰rˆ‰klˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
oldu
alichengiz: 2 gˆ…n ˆ¶nce gˆ¶rmˆ…ˆ tˆ…m bir
ellerini, yanlˆ‰ˆ anˆ‰msˆ‰yor olabiliri
alichengiz: m
alichengiz: ♠’in yerini bilirse +1..♠5
tez: arada sirada slem kacirmiyorsan durmadan
slemlere batiyorsun demektir..♠Q
tez: slem kacirmak namusa leke getirmez
tez: ♠ oynarsa yinede yapabilir ama daha zor
alichengiz: Ankara ekibi UDCA oynuyor olmalˆ
‰
alichengiz: Carding olarak
alichengiz: ♣ K’ya 4 lˆ… beˆ endim demek, kˆ
…ˆ§ˆ…k apel
alichengiz : UDCA, standart cardingin tersi
oluyor, Kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel ters sayˆ‰
hobakan: sˆ¶yleyenler de var tabiki:)
tez: dogu bati kucuk apel ters sayi oynuyorlar..♠
T
arigun:
e dogru karar verirse 12 love
ovncylmz: muhammet zorla mi 3nt dedi:)
tez: biz nasil oynuyoruz onu yazayim..isteyen not
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MolvaM: dilek ˆ§ok emin olmamakla birlikte 2nt
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diyen ortakta K ve ♠K oluversin artˆ‰k dedi
muhtemelen
MolvaM: ataˆ§ bu elde doˆ ru karar verdi.. 7
relrikas: ♠ i bilmesi gerekecek defans etliye sˆ…
tlˆ…ye karismazsa.. 8
alichengiz : Gˆ…neˆ li Antalya’dan selamlar
sevgiler
vugraphzpv: 2nt yi zorla dedi.. T
vugraphzpv: 3nt mecbur kalˆ‰p sˆ¶yledi
vulkan: ♣ Asˆ‰ bilinse bile 7nt demek zor ve
gereksiz takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda
tez:
u alinca ♠ i tahsil eder.. J
vugraphzpv: ve ˆ¶ylede deklere edildi
tez: artik batti
ovncylmz: =)
alichengiz: Bˆ…yˆ…k Koz ile ˆ¶akar
alichengiz: ♣ giderse
alichengiz: -3 ˆ§izgisi devam ediyor..♠J
alichengiz: Nafiz Zorlu, Salvodor Assael ˆ§ifti Tˆ
…rkiyenin en deneyimli partnerliˆ i..♠6
alichengiz: ama bu eller ˆ§ok rahat, Pekˆ en iˆ§in
daha Aktiv, karˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰k eller gerekiyor
relrikas: murat oyunu ˆ§ˆ¶zdˆ… -2..♠4
hobakan: 7 direkt lˆ¶ve var.
alichengiz: ˆ imdi ♣ 4-2 ye oynar empas atarsa 6
yapacak..♠A
relrikas: ♣ vale dusmeseydi tabi.. Q
relrikas: ilk yorum olur o kadar :)
ergur: rakibin sadece 3 puanˆ‰ var.. 2
arigun: emin abide 2 tene ♠ olsa bir sansi vardi 2
nun simdi muhtemelen batacak..♣5
hobakan: trefl ataˆ ˆ‰na batar mˆ‰ydˆ‰ acaba?
diye soruluyor... A
alichengiz: bir As ˆ§izme giriˆ imi izlediniz..♠7
alichengiz: ama ˆ§eker :)..♠K
tez: 1nt ye 4♣ ..1nt 4 ♠ e taransfer ve slem
daveti
hobakan: evet batardˆ‰.. ama 1 kˆ¶r denince
treflin durumu pek belli deˆ il.
MolvaM: bu takˆ‰mˆ‰n adˆ‰nˆ‰n Atabey
olmasˆ‰nˆ‰n sebebi soruluyuor. Herhalde takˆ
‰mˆ‰n ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰cˆ‰sˆ‰ milli sporcular
ˆ‰mˆ‰zdan Yalˆ§ˆ‰n Atabey’dir diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ
…nmˆ…yorum. ama farklˆ‰ bilgisi olan varsa
.....♠3
MolvaM: buyursun lˆ…tfen
arigun: turnuava salonunda internet baglantisi
biraz sorunlu..♣7.. K.. 5.. 2..♠2
ogoksel: herkese selamlar
ovncylmz: defans su an hangi lovemizi alsak
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daha cok batar diye dusunuyo.. T.. 7.. K
vugraphzpv: beklenmedik bir lˆ¶ve ˆ§ˆ‰ktˆ‰
ama oda yetmiyor
vugraphzpv: ok sen yaz beraber yazalˆ‰m sap
gibi kalmasˆ‰n masa:)
kabexnuf: merhabalar
ovncylmz: selam herkese
alichengiz: bu baraj, kˆ¶tˆ… oluyor No Name1
takˆ‰mˆ‰ adˆ‰na.. 3
arigun: 2 batti simdi..♣J
alichengiz: -2 yapmak iˆ§in 2♠ verince..♣4.. 4
tez: yakˆ‰m=takˆ‰m..♣8.. 9
alichengiz: 3-3 % de 30, 4-2 % 57
MolvaM: teˆ ekkˆ…r Tez :) hislerime tercˆ…man
oldun.. A
kabexnuf: diˆ er masa gazilli oynamˆ‰yor, 1ntye
3c rebidinden sonra gittiler
ovncylmz: bu masada daha bilimsel gelinmis
acikcasi sleme, ama gazilliden sonra 2 ye 3♠
diyen bu mudur o tartisilir:)
ovncylmz: 2nt daha iyi gibi sanki, sonra bir soru
sekansi daha sart dagilim icin
kabexnuf: gazilliyi sadece oynamak yetmiyor,
cok iyi anlaˆ mak da gerekli
ovncylmz: evet biz iyi biliriz korayla:)
tez: eski meslegim tercumanlˆ‰k
vugraphzpv: ben 4 de kalˆ‰rlar die dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nm
ˆ…ˆ tˆ…m ama
hobakan: o yˆ…zden konuˆ ˆ‰lmayan rengi
tercih etti Pekˆ en.. normal olarak:)
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c 4
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Mitra Buana
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Geologi Timah
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N 4
620
N 5
650
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♠ AK 8
7
K Q10 9 6 4 3
10
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10 9 8
7
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♠10 9 7 4 2
N ♠J53
A8
J52
W E
J3
A74
S
♣10 6 4 3
♣AK 9 8
♠Q 6
4
6
7
2
KQ65 2
3
♣Q J 7 5 2
6
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W: Julius A G
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N: Lusye Bojo
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E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
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#3 S:: 7,8,K,2
#5 W:: 2,A,5,6
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#2 N:: 8,3,Q,4
#4 N:: 9,J, 5, A
#6 N:: T,A,2,3
Walddk2: Strange choice by Spears
Walddk2: Why not 2♠?
keylime: partial swing potentially there
bjacobs: Amazing hand
mcarroll: me neither jack
panja: it is good to play a non-normal game, adds
spice.....you don’t really need justification
joest: could have lost to stiff jack of spades. I
guess I could see losing the hook but certainly
seems right to start with the king
roswolf: good instructive play - well done
sybarra: I seem to owe a lot of specs
roswolf: slam time again
santyclz: When E. F. Hedy speaks, people listen.
hedyg: would have been more fun on a
lead
viren169: I dont blame them...
hedyg: lol
drg: 10% slams that make are great for them... if
they can find them
drg: which is very unlikely
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lestergold: roland slam alert!
panja: ideally, ♠KQ after K was ruffed....1
bjacobs: To defeat the contract, North probably
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mdgraham: likely 1NT=15-17 in 3rd and 4th
positions
roswolf: an ACOL2 - wonders will never cease
henrik_r: Though to get there
henrik_r: And it also has no play I think
mollerjep: and tough to win
santyclz: This hand looks like fun.
bjacobs: All too hard..1N
sybarra: S finding the bid "amusing"
joest: so now if the panelists had a ’majors’ call
avaiilable here would you trot it out as east?
Walddk5: But Schaltz has a great board to come (
16). 3NT should not have made
panja: not me, I would need suit body....p
joest: put me in the ’yes I would’ column :)
henrik_r: Wow
mollerjep: thats the way to do it :-)
viren169: could get interesting...
viren169: N has both support for pd and defence...
hedyg: :)
mariner1: 5 of a minor..... 5♣ best I think..4
mcarroll: vulnerable ? not me
bobholl: not with those beautifull
joest: i’m clearly outvoted!
sybarra: ♠ suit nothing to write home about
either
joest: you guys were right this time, I’ll say that!
chen_xin: 7dˆ ´†ˆ ˆ›´ ˆ ns´…´•´ ´‰7h..p
ady: this seems comfortable wsill probably try J
♣ and when that is ducked play spades
sybarra: that beautiful play gathered 5 imps, as
the other room tried 4 ♠
hedyg: 4 is good news for W
ady: 6
can make here
Walddk5: The defence had several chances to
beat it
henrik_r: I would have guessed that Dorthe had
about maximum..p
bjacobs: In theory, neither makes..p
mcarroll: no problems now
panja: this works out fine only because North has
wasted values in ..opposite a singleton
viren169: 4333 shapes are not usually good for
generating tricks
Walddk5: Welcome back to Matthias Berghaus
ziff: Hi all
drg: this can calmly make 2 with a spade to the K
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drg: Hi
asig: Hi Matthias
galadriel: Seems no-one likes ♠s anymore..♣A
Walddk2: Seems impossible to get to spades. I
am lost
bcallaghan: Seems to be an anti-spade pact.
mollerjep: peter is famous for winning these very
difficult games, so....
lestergold: sadly with heart finesse wrong its not
too great unless no club lead
ianrei: I think the first X showed H..♣2
galadriel : I always thought that 1 ♣ (1 ) X
guaranteed equal length in maj
sybarra: well...
chick: sure would be interesting to know what
each player thinks these bids mean :)
mdgraham: I wonder if this is a bidding misunderstanding apologies to NS if not
ady: has to ruff 2 clubs to avoid any heart view
lestergold: therefore arguably better than 50%
ady: definately better can discard a heart on 3rd
spade
lestergold: yes actually its too good for a roland
slam
lestergold: even onm heart lead all the clubs go
away
lestergold: so will they bid it?
ady: yes no club lead makes it easier
Walddk2: Maybe Bowles’ double showed hearts
and Howard’s a support double?..♣4
panja: I can imagine so many hands where N
would have 4 Spades and xxx or Axx of where
4♠ would be odds on
sybarra: N not letting S off the hook at 4 ♠
mollerjep: comparison coming up and like I said
7 imps for Schaltz :-)
santyclz: 4nt?
hedyg: W: i dont want to cuebid , dont really
have that much
viren169: good news or bad news... they were
committed to game...
mariner1: 4 has a playhas to find J .. 3
mariner1: nice lead
bjacobs: Not on that lead!
mariner1: yes 4 is off now
bjacobs: It’s a smart lead, if you think about it
bjacobs: The chance of partner being short is
quite good. And you have A to control the
trump suit and give the ruff
viren169: 4 seems to be pushing it a bit
lestergold: its a roland grand in fact
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mdgraham: but it sure looks like it :)..♠8..♠3
sybarra: oops
mdgraham: sensible to play what you play over a
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=transfer to spades ..♠Q
mdgraham: looks like 2 was (North) cue-bid (
South) transfer
sybarra: but I would expect to see 5 ♠ in dummy
roswolf: another blackwood misunderstanding it
seems
mdgraham: I reckon South was expecting that...
♠4
Walddk2: In that case the spade suit is lost.. 7
roswolf: west should pass in sleep
bcallaghan: My preference is to play the double
of 1D as guaranteeing both majors. These pairs
obviously don’t... 8.. K
mariner1: now to make
keylime: this is going to be a challenge.
sybarra: well ace of trumps or a cashing ace in
spades
viren169: I quite like 3 as fit jump and let pd
decide where to go...
santyclz : It seems to me that unless e-w are
playing a big ♣ system, 4 is mandatory, pd is
unlimited.
ziff:
force could make this close, but I think
declarer will succeed
ianrei: and west’s X showed 3H.. 2
galadriel: I’m with you Brian
ianrei: responses to 1C are transfer
ady: 2 controls + queen of diamonds
Walddk2: Yes, but you lose spades when opener
is 4-3 in the majors and responder not strong
enough to bid again.. 9
ady: this also a good line spade entry
mariner1: well can he make it?.. J
henrik_r: Schou apparently devalued his 18 to
15-17
mollerjep: Schou only opened 1c on the 18 point
hand...
roswolf: now wst will be confident as long as
there is no revoke by his side ..♣5
hedyg: i dont think the
suit is good enough
and it denies ♣ shortness for me
hedyg: i mean for the jumpfit
drg: north hasn’t the entries to lead all his hearts,
and declarer can make 5 side suit winners + ruffs
+ 1 spade on power anyway
ziff: Very well done, especially after that low
lead from N
galadriel: Ah, even after overcall?.. A
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keylime: declarer will have to play desperate here,
and the spade cover almost forces the finesse in
spades.
lestergold: and of course they have reached it
ianrei: after 1D, X replaces the 1D response..♠2
galadriel: yes, I see..♠A
Walddk2: I understand, but I am entirely happy
with a system where you may lose the boss suit
Walddk2: *not happy
idc: Playing a short 1♣ system, I used to play X
as both or neither majors - but whatever you do
doesn’t matter, as long as you both do it
mariner1 : yes the ♠ lead and play allows a
chance to make now
keylime: the fact that a heart lead was indicated
and rejected, interests me
hedyg: no strong ♣ for EW
brolucius: Hi ti the kibitzers!..♠5
brolucius: I was mistakenly in the Closed Room
and missed the start of this deal.
lestergold: so has no chjoice has to go for thye
line of ruffing clubs
ady: more interesting on this lead
lestergold: much superior than the 50% available
on heart finesse
pentacon: best Lead
lestergold: the most challenging lead the only
one to give us any work as commentators
ady: 9 tricks..♠6
joest: time to ’cash out’
lestergold: will pl;ay ace of clubs surely and give
up a club
sybarra: maybe get a club ruff now .. T.. A
sybarra: but E may not expect pard to have a ♠
lestergold: or other way round
viren169: U are a passed hand... you cant have
everything.. 2
ady: good to lose your losers early
lestergold: doesnt mind one round of trumps
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EW:
o 2
c 2♠
5
this/total IMPs
Geologi Timah
109
Mitra Buana
2
142
E
-2 100
S 4
170
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5
7
♠10
9-8
A84
9
6-5
10 9 5 4 3 2
7
♣A96
♠8 6 3 2
N ♠A 7
QJ53
10 6
W E
KQ6
A J87
S
♣8 7
♣K 5 4 3 2
♠KQ J 954
5
4
K972
4
6
♣ Q J10
6
140
N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
N
E
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p
2♣
p
p
W: D Sacul
W
X
2
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#1 S::ªK,2,T,A
#3 N::¨2,7,ª4,¨6
#5 S::ªQ,3,©8,ª7
#7 E::§K,J,7,A
#9 W::©Q,,,
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E: T Asby
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p
©T,2,3,A
©6,K,5,4
ªJ,6,§6,¨8
¨3,J,©7,¨Q
#2 E::
#4 E::
#6 S::
#8 N::
MolvaM: evet kapyan Yalˆ§ˆ‰n Atabey miˆ . gˆ
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…venilir kaynaklardan bilgi geldi... 3
MolvaM: kaptan
arigun:
da
arigun: 4 de ♠ kupu ile batiyor
arigun: neyse ilginc olabilecek bir el sakin gecti
vugraphzpv: 1.den 4♣ aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰
nˆ‰n 5♣ i normal mi
alichengiz: Ziya Atilla ve Yusuf kahyaoˆ lu henˆ
…z yeniler
alichengiz: karo ˆ§ek ˆ§ak dˆ…ˆ erse Q gerek
yok piki bilmeˆ e
tez: 1 nt acan oyuncunu eli iyiyse transferi kirar
alichengiz: 5
ns, 2♠ ew
fahir: kˆ¶r dam empas dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda 6 kˆ¶r iyi
kontrat ama batˆ‰yor
alichengiz: 3 NS’a
hobakan : Rua Karo yerine Rua Pik olsa zor
durumda kalabilirdi..
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MolvaM: 5♣ deklaresi belki de exclusion deˆ il
sadece kˆ…bid olabilir.
MolvaM: emin deˆ iliz ama sonuˆ§ olarak normal
bir kontrata gelindi
hobakan: ama yˆ‰ldˆ‰z oyuncular bazen bˆ¶
yle yaparlar.. wd Dilek Yavaˆ :)
arigun: bu elden muhtemelen 11 imp senyorlere
gelecek
alichengiz : Merhaba Herkese, kolay gelsin
Cengiz bey
alichengiz: 3. eldeki, gˆ…zel ˆ lem deklarasyonun
ˆ¶dˆ…lˆ… 13 IMP oldu, Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰
hemen ˆ¶ne geˆ§ti
ovncylmz: 3d=16-18 dengeli, 3h=15-17 6+♠,
3sp= 18-19 6+♠, 3nt=19-21 dengeli gibi..p
MolvaM: bu el ilginˆ§ ve swing potansiyeli iˆ§
eriyor
alichengiz: ine de, yapˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ zon ˆ lem, her
zaman iyidir
alichengiz: ne olur ne olmaz
alichengiz: Yine de
MolvaM: sadece 6 implik te olsa
arigun: 3nt denirse tek cikilmaz heralde :)..1
arigun: bence makul
ovncylmz: 2taraf da bu kartlara uyduktan sonra
yuzdeler degisiyor ama degil mi?
alichengiz: 5 ♠ ˆ§akasˆ‰ ile batˆ‰yor
alichengiz: deˆ iˆ iyor tabi, konuˆ uluncada deˆ iˆ
iyor
ovncylmz: mesela 2 taraf da 2 tur trefle uydu
ovncylmz: dogu 3.trefli verdi:)
alichengiz: genel anlamda, dˆ‰ˆ arˆ‰da ˆ§ift
sayˆ‰da kart varsa partaj olma olasˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ d
ˆ…ˆ ˆ…k oluyor
ovncylmz: simdi trefl vale %50 olasilikla doguda,
yani sans
tez: ornegin 1nt 4♣ 4 = u tuttum elim iyi
alichengiz: tabi ki durmak olanaksˆ‰z 5 ’de
fahir: ancak pik alˆ‰nmazsa yapˆ‰labilir
ergur: artˆ‰k 6 oynamazlar
hobakan: ˆ§ok doˆ ru.. 5 Cl cue-bid ˆ…zerine 5
Karo duymuˆ olabilir.
MolvaM: fikret 4lˆ… karo gˆ¶sterincde haldun
max el ile yaparˆ‰m belki dedi ama olmadˆ‰
arigun: merhabalar teskkurler
alichengiz: 4 EW
ovncylmz: tabi ki..1♠
emre kaya: selamlar
alichengiz: 3nt yok, 5♣ yapˆ‰labilir mi?
ergur: hg emre
hobakan: diˆ er masada 1 trefl-1 karonun geliˆ
imi ˆ¶nem kazanmˆ‰ˆ oldu bu durumda
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hobakan: muhtemel 4 kˆ¶r kontarˆ‰ var.
hobakan: pik kupu ile batmakta
hobakan: karo ataˆ ˆ‰na da batar
MolvaM: bu devirde ceza kontru atana saygˆ‰ gˆ
¶stermek gerek
alichengiz: ns ♠
alichengiz: 4♠
MolvaM: NT limitleri 15-17 bile olsa ˆ¶zellikle
5li renk varken bir puan iskonto yapmak makul..
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MolvaM: 1♠ aˆ§mazmˆ‰ydˆ‰nˆ‰z?
MolvaM: ataˆ§ ˆ‰n eli ile
alichengiz: tek sayˆ‰da kart varsa 3-2 4-3 daˆ ˆ
‰lma olasˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ yˆ…ksek oluyor
ovncylmz: kuzeyden uyandirir miydiniz?
tez: 1nt 4♣ 4 dendikten sonraki 4nt uzerinden
keykart sorusu
MolvaM: 17 puanlˆ‰k zon denir mi?
MolvaM: bence zor
alichengiz: ˆ iganˆ‰m var paˆ am 22 oldum
sas2nt: uygun zon durumunda 4♠ demelitdi..p..2
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tez: acmazdim
tez: 2 el once defansta kaybedilen 1 imp bence
sonraki eli etkiledi
emre kaya: A grubunda toplam 20 takim var
alichengiz: 6♣ ise hiˆ§ batmˆ‰yor
alichengiz: Seyirci herˆ eyi gˆ¶rˆ…yor :)
vulkan: dˆ…z bir bord, pik ataˆ ˆ‰na +1 olacak
alichengiz: ˆ imdi deneme konuˆ masˆ‰ yaparsa
gelmeleri zor, gˆ¶nderirse gelirler ancak
sas2nt : 7-4 ve 8 adet renklerle eli 1 seferde
anlatmak gerekir..p
alichengiz: Merhaba Emre :)
hobakan: kˆ‰saca:) 5-4 ile majˆ¶rler demek bu
el iˆ§in pek iyi olmayacak sanˆ‰rˆ‰m.
fahir: 6 trefl oynanmasˆ‰ imkansˆ‰z..2
alichengiz: EW’te koz yok
MolvaM: hdoˆ al olarak her iki rakip konuˆ tuˆ
una gˆ¶re taraflar puanlarˆ‰n aˆ aˆ ˆ‰ yukarˆ‰
eˆ it daˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ biliyorlar
tez:
lerim olsa acardˆ‰m..♠ lerimi nasˆ‰lsa
gˆ¶sterirdim..p
tez:
lerim olsa baˆ tan aˆ§ˆ‰p kurtulurdum
ovncylmz: tezcan sen diger masada operasyonu
tamamlamis:)
ovncylmz: kuzey guney biraz pasif davrandilar
bence
alichengiz: 3♣ baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ oldu, dengeli eliyle
Dilek konuˆ amadˆ‰, ama Nihal uyandˆ‰rmalˆ
‰, eli uyandˆ‰rmak iˆ§in mˆ…kemmel, dbl
iyiydi
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alichengiz: ˆ imdi bi dbl daha? imkansˆ‰z deˆ il
ama ...
arigun: davet edilirse zam :)..p
alichengiz: Nafiz Salvo, 1 Major sekansˆ‰nda
Gazzilli ve Zayˆ‰f nt onuyorlar onun dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
nda 2/1 tabanlˆ‰ sistemleri
alichengiz: kˆ¶r 3. ’ya gider 6♣ garanti, Antar
tarafˆ‰ndan tabi ki
alichengiz: 3 aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰rsa kuzey 4 der ama
koz kalitesi 3 aˆ§maˆ a elveriˆ li deˆ il, zon
durumu nedeni ile aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ olmalˆ‰
alichengiz: 3♣ oynayabilirlerse iyi ama
MolvaM: bu zonda anter 4 seviyesine ˆ§ˆ‰kmak
istemez
alichengiz: takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda ˆ¶yle ˆ akalar
hoˆ olmaz
MolvaM: netekim
MolvaM: 3nt dense idi ˆ ˆ…kriye merzenin bir ara
kontr demesi gerekecekti..p
MolvaM: ve ortak atak edene kadar oldukˆ§a sˆ‰
kˆ‰ntˆ‰lˆ‰ bir 30 saniye geˆ§ecekti
ovncylmz : bu ellerle 3c acmiyor muyuz? ne
dusunuyosunuz
ovncylmz: ortagim guneydeki elle pas gecebiliyorsa
kuzeyden uyandirmam gerekebilir:)
alichengiz: 6-4 major vardˆ‰ Tez, burada da ayn
ˆ‰ mˆ‰ oynuyorsun?
arigun: hayati hosgeldin :)..♠K
ergur: hb:)
alichengiz: 2♣ 2 ye xfer davet sekansˆ‰
alichengiz: alttan geˆ§erse J pike o da batar :)
relrikas: 6♣ ufak pik atagina batiyor zaten de
konu dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ zaten
fahir: Kolbastˆ‰ iˆ§in bence iyi bir skor
hobakan: Vahapoˆ lu ekstra deˆ erler vaat etmek
iˆ§in cue-vid yapˆ‰p 4 Kˆ¶r dedi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m.
arigun : hele hele senyor abilerimizin attigi
konturlara :)
ergur: oynayacaklar:)
alichengiz: neyse buldular en iyi kozlarˆ‰nˆ‰
vugraphzpv : iki takˆ‰mda birbirine nazik
davranˆ‰yor bu maˆ§ta..♠2
vugraphzpv: zon durumundan ˆ§ekinmiˆ galiba
kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ya beyazda
alichengiz: 3 rengede fit veriyor, rakip renk kˆ‰
sa
alichengiz: kaˆ§ takˆ‰m dˆ…ˆ ecek bugˆ…n?
tez: o oyuncunun tercihi oyleydi.saygi duyarim
alichengiz: 3♠ diyebilir Tugbars
MolvaM: bˆ¶ylesi daha stressiz..♠T
MolvaM: madem 2♠ diyecekti 1 tur ˆ¶nce neden
demedi?
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alichengiz: 2 GF checkback, GF ellerle
emre kaya : bu gunun sonunda ilk 9 siradaki
takimlar A grubunda kalacak diger 11 takim ise B
grubuna dusecekler
MolvaM: evet. senyˆ¶rden kontr yiyen iflah olmaz
alichengiz: daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m uygun, +1 yaplabiliyor
alichengiz : 2,5 ♠ eli vardˆ‰ baˆ tan 2 dedi,
rakip renk kˆ‰sa olunca diyebilir diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…
ndˆ…m
alichengiz: Evren paˆ a ile muhabbetiniz oldu mu
Murat bey :)
tez:
atak edilirse 1000 iceri:)..♠A
tez : kubac in elindeki
adedi..uyandirmayi
engelliyor
hobakan: Ozcan Rusinow stili atak etti.
ergur: kolay bir 3nt.. T
alichengiz: 4 sorunsuz.. 2
alichengiz : koz ˆ§ekip pik ˆ§akˆ‰nca veya
karolarˆ‰ verip eli saˆ layˆ‰nca kolaylˆ‰kla
oluyor
ovncylmz: dbl mi atardiniz?
vulkan: Babaˆ§’ˆ‰n eliyle 2 le uyandˆ‰rma
taraftarˆ‰ olan var mˆ‰:)
tez: ♠ atagindan sonra tek care
empasi.. 3
MolvaM: dikkat
murat: selam herkese.. A
MolvaM: ˆ…mit tarhan ortakta 4lˆ… trefl umdu ˆ
¶nceki geliˆ melere bakarak
MolvaM: ama kandemir’in eli maalesef tek renkli
idi
arigun: 15 no’lu elde diger masada yanlis bir
anlasma oldu azfena 5 oynadi
arigun: tezcan sen hosgeldin
tez: selam:)hoˆ bulduk
tez: ♣ kozu yokoldu
hobakan: bu stilde atak ettiˆ iniz onˆ¶rˆ…n bir ˆ
…stˆ…nˆ… vaat ediyorsunuz.
Walddk9: merhaba murat.. 2
alichengiz: 3 B den gelecek 12 takˆ‰m, yarˆ‰n
6 dˆ…ˆ ecek 2 ˆ§ˆ‰kacak sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
alichengiz: evet -100 yerine 500
gravity: Merhabalar Rusya dan :)
MolvaM: ayrˆ‰ca sˆ…rekli koz defansˆ‰na 4
pik olmayabilir de
MolvaM: gerˆ§i nevzatˆ‰n pik ruasˆ‰nˆ‰ atak
etmesini bekleyemeyiz ama
MolvaM: 3♣ ’e katˆ‰lˆ‰yor musunuz?.. 7
alichengiz: pik ˆ§akasˆ‰ ile 5 batˆ‰nca ˆ§ok
bˆ…yˆ…k bir swing olmaz
relrikas: 6 e 6♠ dememek ˆ§ok zor bence 300
fark gelebilir
alichengiz: evet oluyor
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sas2nt: 1
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diyecekti serap 4♠ diyebilirdi..♠4
arigun: o da cok zor olmayacak
ovncylmz: irfanin eliyle cakinca genelde pik dam
guneyde olur, ortakta da QJXXX kor cikar, bi de
alakasiz bir trefl puani:)
alichengiz: koz paslarˆ‰ iˆ§in yeterli antre yok
tez: selam murat..hosgeldin.. 6
emre kaya: B grubunun ilk 3 takimi ise A grubuna
dahil olacak yani yarin A grubunda 12 takim
mucadele edecek
relrikas: as karo karo oynarsa promosyonu onler
ve kontrat tam olur bakalˆ‰m safety oyun
gorecekmiyiz.. 6
alichengiz: dbl 3♠ iˆ§in piklerim kˆ¶tˆ… ve gˆ…
cˆ…m az
alichengiz: tek parmak yazarsan geˆ§ kalˆ‰rsˆ‰
n :)
MolvaM: trefl’e rua ile baˆ lamasˆ‰ gerekirdi
deklaran ˆ‰n
kabexnuf: hic antre yok, kalite de cok iyi degil,
en azindan bir antre olsun.. K
ovncylmz: 7321? AJ10XXXX
MolvaM: selamlar
kabexnuf: acilabilir tabiki
kabexnuf: selamlar
vugraphzpv: bence beyaza beyazda anca aˆ§ar:)
alichengiz: 4-4 koza oynarken uzun renk saˆ lanˆ
‰r, salvo pik ˆ…zerine oynayacaktˆ‰r
ovncylmz: KQ9XX?:)
ergur: slm hg
gravity: becne kolbasyi icin kotu olacak,1kˆ¶r
acilik 6kˆ¶r e 6pik baraji olmasi muhtemel
alichengiz: -1 makul
ovncylmz: +1 falan yaptirir uzulursun:).. 5
relrikas: karo !V
MolvaM: ben katˆ‰lmˆ‰yorum.. 4
ovncylmz: dbl icin de 3lu koru var, 5li piki var..
zaten zannedersem ne ile uyandirsam diye dusunurken
el pasa gidiyor bazen bu ellerde
alichengiz: 6 lˆ‰ tekle tutana karˆ ˆ‰ oynayacak
kalitede olamsˆ‰ lazˆ‰m, 1 ♠ demekle 3 ♠
demek aynˆ‰ ˆ ey deˆ il
alichengiz : diˆ er masada 1 2 ♣ 3 diye
giderse konuˆ ma 6 makul bir ihale
hobakan : ˆ ˆ¶le cevaplayayˆ‰m: bizler bir
alttaki onˆ¶rˆ… vaad ediyoruz, diˆ er stil bir ˆ…st
arigun: merak eden izleyicile icin azfena takiminin
ismi oyuncularinin basharflerinden olusuyor..♠Q
tez: ♣ devamina oyun batacak
fahir : selam ˆ mer sˆ‰cak Antalyadan oraya
selamlar
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murat: hoˆ bulduk tez. 2eski genˆ§ milli, 2 genˆ§
milli bir a milli toplandˆ‰k otelin lobisinde. ..♠3
tez: ortagˆ‰n rengi tek.sevimsiz
alichengiz: Merhaba
tez: tercan 3 defos ederse.. 8
alichengiz: tarzˆ‰m ˆ¶yle
MolvaM: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… doˆ uda trefl J10xx olabilirdi
ve o zaman empas ile onlarˆ‰ toplayabilirdi
tez: yada ♠ tabiki..♠7
alichengiz: zon yoktu elde, en ˆ anslˆ‰sˆ‰ 5♣
o da karolar kˆ¶tˆ… daˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in batˆ‰
yor
tez: 5♣ oynayabilseler sanslari vardi
ovncylmz: hmm..♠J..♠6..♣6
vugraphzpv:
ruasˆ‰nˆ‰ almak istemedi
ovncylmz: ilk maclari nolmus bu iki takimin?
vugraphzpv: ufak karo gelince Muhammet onˆ¶r
var sandˆ‰ galiba
alichengiz: 3♠ 4♠ olur 3pik denirse trajedi
hobakan : kˆ¶r partaj olsa bir umut vardˆ‰
dekalaran iˆ§in
MolvaM: ama bu elde farketmiyor
begse: bu gibi durumlarda ortagˆ‰n koz seˆ§
mesi iˆ§in 2nt oynanˆ‰yor tabii oda naturel 2nt
yi kaybettirir
sas2nt : 1 diye araya girip bir daha konuˆ
mayan bir el kime yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olur.. 8
tez: tamamina erdirmis olur:)
tez: milsiz yok desene
fahir: herkese merhaba
fahir: bugˆ…n swiss maˆ§larˆ‰ baˆ ladˆ‰
fahir: A grubunda 34 B grubunda 33 takˆ‰m mˆ
…cadele ediyor
hobakan: ancak ˆ imdi birinin kupunu yiyerek
battˆ‰(karo veya pikten)
murat: :)..♣K
fahir: gˆ…n sonunda A dan 16 B den 4 takˆ‰m
yarˆ‰n A grubunda devam edecek
alichengiz: tek baˆ ˆ‰na zor bu iˆ
alichengiz: kˆ¶rle ˆ§ˆ‰karsa -1..♣J
ergur: nevzat abinin 3cl tercihinin acˆ‰klamasˆ
‰ varmˆ‰ baˆ kanˆ‰m
tez: zonsuz 3 iceri..150..♣7
alichengiz: dummy reversal’a yˆ¶nelip kˆ‰sa
koz tarafˆ‰nˆ‰ saˆ layabilir veya ˆ§apraz ˆ§aka
murat: Likom takˆ‰mˆ‰ turnuvanˆ‰n favorilerinden..
Bugˆ…n iyi de bir baˆ langˆ‰ˆ§ yaptˆ‰lar..♣A
MolvaM: gene de kontrsuz atlatmalarˆ‰ ˆ ans
kabexnuf: burda zon durumundan ziyade
MolvaM: evet bazˆ‰ seyircilerimizin de belirttiˆ i
gibi rakip 4-4 kˆ¶r fiti bulmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰na gˆ¶re
ortakta kˆ¶r 5li olmalˆ‰.. 3
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ergur: = oldu
alichengiz: 2 tur koz ve As pik pik
gravity: ˆ ˆ le tatilim bitti,ben biraz gidip beton dˆ
¶keyim,sizlere iyi seyirler,turnuvada oynayan
arkadaslara basarilar :)
alichengiz: kozu denerse -2.. J
MolvaM: demek kˆ¶r atak etmek gerek.. 7
tez: hatice ozgur filiz uygan yeni ortakliklardan..iyi
gidiyorlar.. Q
murat: ˆ in’de bizi mutlu ettiler ˆ§ok
kabexnuf : ortak bilmeli ona gore 3nt deyip
dememeyi dusunmeli
MolvaM: ama her zaman bu kadar net dˆ…ˆ ˆ…
nemeyebiliyor insan.. Q
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NS:
EW:
o 2
c 2♠
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this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
2
142
Geologi Timah
109
E
-2 100
S 4
170
7
♠10
9-8
A84
9
6-5
10 9 5 4 3 2
7
♣A96
♠8 6 3 2
N ♠A 7
QJ53
10 6
W E
KQ6
A J87
S
♣8 7
♣K 5 4 3 2
♠KQ J 954
5
4
K972
4
6
♣ Q J10
6
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W: Julius A G
W
N: Lusye Bojo
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E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
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#1 W:: 8,6,K,T
#2 E:: T,K,5,4
#3 S:: 4,2,T,A
#4 E:: 2,J,7,9
#5 S:: 9,3, 2, 7
#6 S:: K,6, 3,7
#7 S:: Q,8, 4, 3
idc: that’s a new one on me - it makes a certain
sense I guess, as long as it is a one round force
idc: ok, now this is a boring partscore hand
ianrei: what do you di with neither major
ianrei: do
idc: at least, it is if you are from the other room,
sigh
keylime: two big scores for N-S
mariner1: 6 makes here, 6N makes
keylime: and another slam coming here
mariner1: that could be a big swing
brolucius: Even if East’s safe exit card of the ♠7
had somehow been removed, he could avoid an
endplay in the trump suit by ducking the K, as
he just did anyway.
sybarra: a real misfit here
henrik_r: Could have gotten out for one down
lestergold: competently played and home
ady: should have played heart to ace now
drg: 4♠X made on bd 1 - good start for schaltz
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drg: if there is indeed another game swing on the
panja: yes, but potential for 9 tricks for NS...the
last board, the lead is cut in half
christinas: Hm, this could be interesting, since
Schaltz was doubled and made 4sp on 1st board,
and accprding to Roland have a good board on 16
christinas: ok, I’m far too slow
asig: Yes, this match isn’t over yet
christinas: possible that NS will reach slam here
asig: 50% - and failing..p
Walddk2: With no major, you support clubs or
bid NT I suppose..1
henrik_r: Will Peter overcall 1NT vul vs not and
with a passed partner?
vugraphzpe: peter has bid 1n - ulrik is thinking
lestergold: should really be a flat board
drg: yes
drg: rates to fail after the overcall
ziff: 50% if played by N
drg: 50% anyway, no choice but to finesse on a
diamond lead
drg: the overcall may make it harder to bid the
slam - that would be bad for Schaltz
bcallaghan : Bowles is armed with the right
bidding tool for this hand...1♠
galadriel: we don,t do "boring" here:)
bjacobs: Good hand for transfers ...
mariner1: 6♠ makes here played in E
joest: probably another 1NT deal
roswolf: this is a perfect fit club game + a friendly
lie of the cards
idc: My guess is that Murdoch though there was
no way his 2♠ was going to end the auction, and
he could support later..
bcallaghan: Quite likely to reach 6D, but RKCB
may stop them.
idc: but it didn’t turn out that way, though I find
it hard to believe West would pass his 2♠ with a
max for the 1
hedyg: N hand looks great now
viren169: looks like a 20 count now!
santyclz: Didn’t look too shabby even before the
x.
lestergold: weak no trump will lead to hearts part
score
christinas: not now
ziff: Is N the same Schou who played that entertaining
HUM-system in the 80ies (and maybe later)?
asig: Yes
christinas : EW are doing their best to tempt
them to D, but I think they will get to slam
brolucius: Not an attractive 2♣ opening, on such
a suit at the two-level...p
way the cards are
hedyg: especially once E leads A
lestergold : favourable lie of cards means 10
tricks look available
lestergold: but not a biddable gam..2♣
mariner1: S is thinking 6 and hoping for 7,,,,,,
should easily find out..2♠
keylime: South not wasting any time here getting
on with it either
mdgraham: not much South can do here
sybarra: I do not see a bid with S hand, thinking
might have been an overbid
ady: 21 v 19 19 might play
lestergold: hm
sybarra: pleasant little hand this ..p
asig: You mean, hope :)
Walddk5: Yes Matthias. Lilla Sˆ⁄ffle Spadern,
with Johs Hulgaard
christinas : ok, this is bad for Schaltz, since
Dorthe and Peter Schaltz in the other room bid all
slams better than 15 %
christinas: especially when they are 40 imps
behind
Walddk5 : pass 8+ 4+ spades 1 ♣ 8+ 4+
hearts. Do you remember the system?
ziff: A german living in Sweden encuntered the
system in league play 2 or 3 years ago. Looks like
HUMs are still allowed in Sweden!
christinas: I don’t understand N, I wonder if he
remembers that 3D shows hearts
mariner1: 5♠ shows 2keys and Q of ..p
roswolf: also 4 of a major is ok too
keylime : 5 ♠ is two keycards with the queen
here..p
sybarra: can certainly understand why "we" are
in 3 ♣
jbgood: Patrick Jourdain has been on the Welsh
national team lots of times, and is the President of
the International Bridge Press Association
santyclz: Remember this hand when you hear the
old saw: partner never has the perfect cards.
mollerjep: a funny spade combination....you will
always lose 2 spade tricks.
viren169: No A of
lead now!
hedyg: 2NT showing a maximum hand, probably
with either HHx or 4 card fit
lestergold: hm this uaction is off the wall
pentacon: I Thinks Pas shows Double spad..♣8
lestergold : then doubel fo the tyransfer bid
should surely show hearts not a takeout of hearts
alunand7: met siang
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would it not be better to let 4 be rkc?..♣6
Walddk2: Undo please
ady: west will be sorry did not trow in dont
blame the opening with both 4 card majors..♣K
ady: could have passed 2 doubled here knowing
a doubleton spade from North
lestergold: north certainly guaranteed doubleton
spade
mariner1: nothing to play..... 6 or 7 depending on
lead..♣T
bobholl: 19 may go down a lot :)
lestergold: they m,issed an opportuinity to get
very rich
mariner1: so making 6.. T
keylime: West wasn’t going to bed with that ace
brolucius: In standard Precision, 2NT was nonforcing. They are playing a different method.
bjacobs: Workmanlike auction.. K
brolucius: On a diamond lead, declarer can try to
steal an extra entry to dummy (to play clubs) by
inserting the 10. Of course this is not very
promising once the 9 has been led.
panja: still, after the
lead, they might make 5
tricks...just give away a small when in next..
5
ady: now looks like diamonds not breaking
hedyg: could S double 4 as retransfer?.. 4..♠
4
hedyg: W seems to be short in ♠ so A♣, ruff
and ♠ looks right
drg : north hand would be just as good if 3
showed
ziff: He is looking at 2 top ♠ losers
lestergold: 2h doubled with overtricks vulnerable
telephone number..♠2
drg: still has to be tempting to raise to 5 and ask
for the spade control
drg: as long as 3 showed some values
lestergold: worse was a mloysian with all the
cards readable..♠T..♠A
pentacon: Martin did’nt have lots of opportunities
after the double from Rico
lestergold: us monety players owuld have been
delighted to play in 2h doubled
brolucius: Since it was not convenent to enter
dummy to lead a club from that hand, declarer
makes the unusual play of the ♣10 from hand...♣
2
lestergold: ach no killer instinct
mcarroll: interesting line of play ..♣J
joest: good play..♣7
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ady: looks like down 3 on best defense
joest: can work hearts and get out for down 2
joest: South didn’t have a very good out card
even if she took the club ace
ady: heart ruff with the winning trump..♣9
ady: another club was ok..♠9..♠3
mcarroll: that solves one problem
bobholl: drop a ♠ as S
hedyg: wd.. 2
ady: diamond and spade for the defence..♠7
mdgraham: West now in control..♠K
joest: theheart solution in isolation the eight is
right
joest: declarer is afraid of a clubs coming thru
though
hedyg: sry short in
of course
joest: or should have been :)..♠6.. 3
viren169: now a ♣ exit coming up.. 7
panja: S thinks he is squeezed....♠Q
santyclz: Nicely stroked.
ady: when the club was dducked east might have
tried a low heart that would restrict to down 2..
♠8.. 4
panja: she is...rather
sybarra : poor S, just no good card to pitch
unless they can execute the sequece perfectly
bobholl: actually west can be squeezed :)
joest: not if south plays her partner for the spade
king. then she can release hearts
joest: has to work out what’s going on
bobholl: if h’d thrown a
mcarroll: what is called a self-squeeze?
panja: if S had discarded a
here..NS would
have made all the remaining tricks
mollerjep: he will not get the diamonds right..♣3
henrik_r: No probably not
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3♣
c 5
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this/total IMPs
Geologi Timah
109
Mitra Buana
7
149
W -1 100
S 5
400
6
9
♠ A10 9
7
K10 7
11
10
A986
6
♣AK 7
♠Q5 3
N ♠K 7 6 4 2
A52
43
W E
J
K10 5
S
♣ Q10 8 6 4 3
♣J52
♠J8
3
6
Q J986
2
Q7 432
2
♣9
7
450
W: D Sacul
W
p
2♣
p
p
N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
N
E
p
p
1♣
p
2♠
2N
3♣
p
§A,2,9,4
¨6,T,Q,§3
©3,J,5,7
§K,5,¨2,§6
#1 N::
#3 N::
#5 E::
#7 N::
E: T Asby
S
p
1
X
p
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ª
#2 N:: A,5,7,J
#4 W:: 5,9,K,8
#6 S:: J,3,A,2
vugraphzpv: teknik arˆ‰zadan dolayˆ‰ ˆ¶zˆ…r
dileriz
tez: deniz turkoglu super defans yapti son durumda
MolvaM: ˆ ampiyona stresi ve 224 seyircinin sizin
hakkˆ‰nˆ‰zda yorum yapma stresi
vugraphzpv: turnava ile ilgili detay bilgilere,
mac sonuclari, butler vs. asagidaki linkten ulasabilirsiniz
vugraphzpv: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/
teams_event.php?event=184&stage=397
MolvaM: birkaˆ§ seyircimiz yayˆ‰nlanan maˆ§
larˆ‰n neye gˆ¶re belirlendiˆ ini sordu
MolvaM: maˆ§lar TBF tarafˆ‰ndan belirleniyor
ve muhtemelen
MolvaM: farklˆ‰ takˆ‰mlara yer verme amaˆ§lˆ
‰
tez: n harfi calˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰yor klavyede
ergur: muhtemel oyun gˆ…neye 1nt
alichengiz: antalya’da harika bir bahar havasˆ‰
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var, ikili ˆ ampiyona iˆ§in gelecekler, yanlarˆ‰
nda hafif bir mont veya kazak alsalar fena olmaz
yine de :)
ovncylmz: 3♠ 4♣ 4 5 de olabilir
alichengiz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/
teams_round.php?round=1506
alichengiz: 3nt ye gelirler sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
alichengiz: yazmaktan ellere bakamˆ‰yorum
yeterince
alichengiz: part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰olur bu elde
alichengiz: Mola mˆ‰ Kenan?
vugraphzpv: evet mola verildi
vugraphzpv: eymen 7
elinde
alichengiz: Tˆ…rkiye 4 lˆ… takˆ‰lar ˆ ampiyonas
ˆ‰ 2009 yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor
alichengiz: 4. gˆ…n bugˆ…n
vugraphzpv: 5♠ ye dblˆ‰nˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰kladˆ‰
ortak ˆ§ˆ‰kmasˆ‰ diye atmˆ‰ˆ
vugraphzpv: ˆ§ˆ‰kmasˆ‰n
alichengiz: bugˆ…n A grubundan 6 B grubundan
2 takˆ‰m kalacak yarˆ‰n ki Danish final grubuna
vugraphzpv: bu arada 15. board farklˆ‰ bir el gˆ
¶rˆ…nen el deˆ il
alichengiz: ˆ ampiyona ile ilgili ayrˆ‰ntˆ‰ bilgi
ve sonuˆ§lar iˆ§in, http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/
alichengiz: Merhaba Herkese :)
hobakan: bu arada maˆ§ gayet dengeli gidiyor.
alichengiz: Nasˆ‰lsˆ‰n ˆ zgˆ…r
hobakan: hoˆ geldiniz:)
hobakan: valla yokluˆ unuzu telaffi etmeye ˆ§alˆ
‰ˆ ˆ‰yorduk:)
alichengiz: tek baˆ ˆ‰na oldukˆ§a zor
MolvaM: evet evet sevgili seyirciler. eˆ er masada
kimse temmuz ayˆ‰na kadar pik oynamaz ise
yere geˆ§emezdi ben de farkˆ‰ndayˆ‰m
MolvaM: slm
alichengiz: kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰za da bakayˆ‰m,
bir saniye
alichengiz: Cappeletti oynuyorlarsa NS 1nt ye
kontur atar..p
alichengiz: Cuma Gˆ…nˆ… Tˆ…rkiye 2 li ˆ
ampionasˆ‰ baˆ lˆ‰yor, 3 gˆ…n sˆ…ecek, ayrˆ
‰ntˆ‰lar sitede mecut
MolvaM: ˆ imdi burada kuzey’in 3 karosu michaels
gibi birˆ ey olurmu..p
relrikas: 5
tez: oyuncular skoru mac bittikten sonra ogrenebiliyor
MolvaM: ama siz doˆ ru oyunu yapˆ‰n gerisini
de rakibe bˆ‰rakˆ‰n
alichengiz : Antalya’dan iyi hikaye yok mu?
Avrupa ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nda ki hikayelerinizi ˆ¶
zledik :)
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MolvaM: oooooo
MolvaM: fatoˆ ulus iˆ i garantiye aldˆ‰..p
vugraphzpv: u_26 15 15 beraber kalmˆ‰ˆ lar
MolvaM : bu el masada size gelseydi 3 nt’yi
hemen deklare ederdim demeden ˆ¶nce dˆ…ˆ ˆ…
nelim lˆ…tfen
arigun: benim klavye de R leri Y diye yaziyor
tez: splinter yapmaktaki sorun ortak slem teklifii
reddederse e yapacaksˆ‰n
ergur: 6yaˆ ˆ‰na kadar r lere yy dediˆ ini zaten
biliyoruz cengiz:)
alichengiz: ♠ i bilirse 3nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor
fahir: artˆ‰k bilmemesi imkansˆ‰z:)
hobakan: ben herkese ˆ§ok teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim. ˆ
§ˆ‰kmalˆ‰yˆ‰m..
MolvaM: aˆ§ok odadan sˆ…per skor
MolvaM: kolbastˆ‰ adˆ‰na
alichengiz: Maˆ§ˆ‰n ilk sayˆ‰sˆ‰nˆ‰ Kolbast
ˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ 2. elden kazanˆ‰yor, sadece 1
MolvaM: eˆ er doˆ ru anlaˆ ˆ‰rlarsa ˆ leme ulaˆ
abilirler. ama grandˆ lem?..1♣!
tez: cok iyi 17 var 18/19 gibi gosterebilirim diye
1♣ acti
alichengiz: 5♣ iyi
alichengiz: 4♣?
alichengiz: enteresan board
MolvaM: antalyaya gidebilsem yazˆ‰cam ama...
MolvaM: 5 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ rakibe kontr atmak dˆ
‰ˆ ˆ‰nda pek ˆ ans bˆ‰rakmamˆ‰ˆ
alichengiz: fark yaratma ˆ§abalarˆ‰ meyvelerini
vermeˆ e baˆ lamˆ‰ˆ
vugraphzpv: sorry for technic problem..p
MolvaM: pek sanmˆ‰yorum
MolvaM: 4 kˆ¶r biraz az gibi
MolvaM: bu gˆ…zel elle
MolvaM: zaten 0 puan olsaydˆ‰ da 4kˆ¶r diyecekti
nur
MolvaM: turnuvanˆ‰n ilerleyen aˆ amalarˆ‰nda
nasˆ‰l olsa "mutat zevat" ˆ‰ seyretme olanaˆ ˆ
‰ buluruz diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yorlar
tez: darilmaz/ozgul cifti ana/kˆ‰z
relrikas: 6♠ X -2 500
alichengiz: imp skalesˆ‰ ve VP soruluyor
alichengiz: biraz sˆ‰ksan 4 pik olacak gibi
hobakan: evet iˆ yerindeysen ve klavye kullanma
ˆ¶zˆ…rlˆ…ysen daha da zor:)
alichengiz: ama olmaz tabi:)
alichengiz: Kenan, kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zn Finali
ile ilgili bilgin var mˆ‰?
vugraphzpv: hayˆ‰r ˆ uanda yok
alichengiz: Likom ve Ege takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ final
oynuyor ve Likom ˆ¶ndeydi 1. evre sonunda
begse: 3nt ya 4♠ iyi baraj
alichengiz: iyi de olabilecekken, misfitte yakalan
ˆ‰nca kˆ¶tˆ… olmuˆ
MolvaM: Anter’in 3 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ daha tutucu
alichengiz: Pekˆ en takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in tabi ki
murat: Hatice’den kˆ¶tˆ…mser yorum geldi..1 !
tez: oyuncular masada oynuyorlar yanda bilgisayar
operatoru var..oynayanlarin oyunlarini bize
iletiyor
murat: ˆ imdi 3 derse 4’e gelirler
tez: oyuncular bilgisayar basinda degil yani
relrikas: kendi kendime yorum da komik oluyor
biraz
relrikas: en az 2 ˆ art her masaya :)
alichengiz: 3 aˆ§an 4 mˆ… diyecek
ergur: 3nt oynarlar ve 2sp den sonra kolay oldu
tez: fit kontru oynamiyorlarsa zor kuzeyin konusmasi..2
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tez: bizim yazdiklarimizida gormuyorlar
murat: bir dbl daha
nafiz: ithal edelim mi ? :)
tez: yok yazma lutfen
alichengiz: ˆ nternational Match Point ve Victory
Point
ovncylmz: bir de guncellenmis agirlikli skorlar
soruluyor:)
alichengiz : Mola olabilirde olmayabilirde,
genelde maˆ§ ortalarˆ‰nda, Lavabo iˆ§in bir
mola olur
MolvaM: veya genel inanˆ§ dumunuza gˆ¶re ilahi
gˆ…ˆ§lere de bˆ‰rakabilirsiniz
alichengiz : part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dramatik
bitebilir
arigun : hernakadar oyuncular yorumlarimizi
okumasa da biz yorumcular oyuncular hakkinda
olumsuz yazmiyoruz :)..p
tez: yapay sistem oynuyorlar
tez:
atagi oynayanˆ‰ zorlayacak
tez: eger 6♠ e gelirlerse
gravity: selam :)
relrikas: hoˆ geldin
nafiz: hoˆ geldin ˆ mer
relrikas: ˆ¶mer
ovncylmz: hayir
ovncylmz: 3♠ diyenin ortagi 4c diyecek
alichengiz: cue bid ah tamam
alichengiz: kˆ‰sˆ‰lama yok
alichengiz: merhaba Herkese, yeniden :)
MolvaM: pek dram olmadˆ‰ sanki
tez: 5 der emine..2♠
MolvaM: kuzey ortaˆ ˆ‰ndan 5 pik cevabuˆ‰na
inanamayacak
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arigun: ortagindan duyacagi 2keycard +koz dam
MolvaM: 5nt gereksiz bir sorumluluk transferi idi.
cevabi piyango olacak
MolvaM: 7 der mi?P
MolvaM: piˆ k empasˆ‰ atarˆ‰m diye diyebilir
alichengiz: 3nt agresiv, zonda olunca mˆ…mkˆ
…n olan zonlarˆ‰ takˆ‰m maˆ§larˆ‰nda sˆ¶
ylemek lazˆ‰m
ovncylmz : yani takimlarin onceki gunlerde
topladigi puanlar da dahil edilmis liste
alichengiz: evet, artˆ‰k herkes biliyor ♠ leri
alichengiz: kˆ‰sˆ‰tlama
alichengiz: zon yok iki tarafa da, A ♠ ˆ§ekilmezse
tabi ki
hobakan: sizlere iyi seyirler
alichengiz: kontur atmak zor, -2
arigun: emin abi simdi kendi kendine sinirleniyordur
hay bu negatif dbl’i icad edenin :)
MolvaM: birinden biri pik oynar nasolsa..
MolvaM: gˆ…le gˆ…le ˆ¶zgˆ…r :)
alichengiz: toplam lˆ¶ve kanunu, nt oynayanlarda
uzun renk yoksa 7 kozlarˆ‰ var kabul ediliyor,
bizde 9 koz var, 7+9:16 9 alˆ‰yorlarsa 7 alˆ‰rˆ
‰z, ˆ igan var lˆ¶ve artabilir, zon durumu uygunsa
baraj ...
alichengiz: iyi sonuˆ§ verir
tez: demezse evde hesap sorarim:) ..p
tez: bilmeyenler icin dedikodu..e.sen esim olur..kizimin
anasi anlaminda
MolvaM: pik J109 elindeyken gayet makul bir
karar
ovncylmz: ooo
vugraphzpv: u-26 genˆ§ milli takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰z
ovncylmz: diger masada da kor rua cekilmemiz
ovncylmz: cekilmemis*
ovncylmz: 3♠=
nafiz: diˆ er masa konturlu 6♠’deler
tez:
yu bilirse 4 u yapabilir
alichengiz: zaten doˆ ru oyunda as ♠ ♠ oynamak
alichengiz: 2 defa empas atˆ‰abilyor bˆ¶ylelikle
tez: 2♣ eger
ya transfer degilse yanlˆ‰ˆ ..2N
alichengiz: 2♠ ♣ den davetimsi
alichengiz: mixed raise
ovncylmz: iki 10lumuz varsa hele 9la hic kacirilmaz
alichengiz: zon yoksa zon sˆ¶ylemek iˆ§in istekli
olmamak gerekiyor
alichengiz: eskiden ne gˆ…zeldi, ˆ§aktˆ‰n mˆ‰,
cezaydˆ‰
alichengiz: hey gidi gˆ…zel gˆ…nler hey :)
arigun: 9 direkt alici var, sanˆ rˆ m fazla olmayacak..3
ortak doˆ al olarak sorumluluˆ u almadˆ‰ :)
ergur: 6sp kolay deˆ il
tez: 11 el kolay..12 zor
tez: ♣ atagi oynayan icin en avatajlˆ‰ atak
tez: artˆ‰k 2 el fazla olacak 4♠
tez: 2♣ e kontr iyi acis gosteriyormus..yusuf
sohtorik yanimda
hobakan: yapˆ‰labilir
alichengiz:
ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa enteresan
hobakan: karo ataˆ ˆ‰na batˆ‰yor
hobakan: kolay gelsin murat abi
alichengiz: aldˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z sayˆ‰ verdiˆ imiz
sayˆ‰ arasˆ‰ndaki fark imp ye ˆ§evriliyor,
sonra bunlar toplanˆ‰p, VP ye ˆ§evriliyor, maˆ§
sonucu oluyor..p
emre kaya: bu maclara baslamadan ˆ¶nce ilk 3
soyle idi
alichengiz: karo ataˆ ˆ‰ olmazsa yani
ogoksel: koz atak en iyisi idi aˆ§ˆ‰k karta..p
tez: 2 yada 3 demesi gerekiyordu
alichengiz: 3♣ demekten iyi, defans var
alichengiz: 5♣ yˆ…ksek
ergur: dbl
alichengiz: karo bir yere gitmeyince, rakip alyor
arigun: deklerasyon cok yuksek seviyede 7 dese
dahi saglikli bir bilgi alma imkani olmadigi icin
biraz uˆ§uˆ olacakti..p
tez : kendisinden sistem konusunda yardim
aliyorum
alichengiz : staymandan geˆ§ip davet etmek
bence iyi, ortak 15 le aˆ§tˆ‰ysa ona bir ˆ ans
verelim
alichengiz: bu savunmaya 3nt batmaz
tez: yusuf izmir takiminin oyuncusu..♣A
alichengiz: saˆ lam alt yapˆ‰sˆ‰ olan bir Web
sayfasˆ‰ ile Sesli de iletilebilir yorunlar, dˆ‰ˆ ar
ˆ‰da yapˆ‰ldˆ‰
alichengiz: Yorumlar
alichengiz: ˆ imdi pik pasˆ‰ pik asˆ‰ ile ele ve
yere ♣
arigun : dbl dese ceza olmayacak... turgayin
uyandirmasini beklemekten baska caresi yoktu,
turgayin eli’de dogal olarak davet haldunun davet
elini uyandiramadi
arigun : yeni gelenler icin turnuva formatini
tekrar yazalim..♣2
tez: ♣ atagina batacak
alichengiz: 3nt de, ♠ ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰nca, karoyu
bilmeˆ e kalˆ‰yordu, A ˆ§ekip yere karo oynandˆ
‰ˆ ˆ‰nda, Q deˆ il ufak koyarsa yapˆ‰lˆ‰yor
begse: 4♠ muhtemel 1 iˆ§eri olurdu
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tez: yorumculuk zor degil burada...evdede yorum
MolvaM: ama seyirciler 2♣ yerine 3
yapiyorum her mactan sonra..♣9
MolvaM: bu durumda kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k trefl ataˆ ˆ‰
daha tercih edilirdi ama bu elde fark etmiyor
tez: ilk ellerin birinde kqxxx ten kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k ˆ§ˆ
‰kˆ‰p kaybetmiˆ ti
tez: demek ki yanlˆ‰ˆ diye dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…p bˆ…
yˆ…k atak etti
tez: halbuki yerde kisa ♣ var..4. buyˆ…k doˆ
ruydu
MolvaM: 4pik hoˆ 1 kontrat gibi duruyor
tez: guneyin 10 vermesi gerekiyor
MolvaM: tezcan sanˆ‰rˆ‰m az ˆ¶nceki aˆ§ˆ‰
klaman yanlˆ‰ˆ anlaˆ ˆ‰ldˆ‰
vugraphzpv: 2 zayˆ‰f bir majˆ¶r yada 18 19
dengeli el(5li majˆ¶r olabilir)
fahir: 3 pike kadar sorunsuz bir el
emre kaya: Izmir B 132 1.
tez: milli briccimiz..♣4
alichengiz : 3nt de de sorun yok kˆ¶rler 4-4
olunca
alichengiz: 9 kolay ˆ imdi, 2 2♣ 4 1 veya 2
lar.. J
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alichengiz: 9 lu pik ataˆ ˆ‰ iyiydi
ovncylmz: kuzeyin eli ile yeri gordukten sonra
defans agresif mi olmaliydi sorusu var burada
alichengiz: +1 mˆ…mkˆ…n
ogoksel: koz dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda her renkten onˆ¶r var
iken rakibin kˆ‰sa kozdan extra lˆ¶ve yapmasˆ‰
nˆ‰ engellemek iˆ§in en mantˆ‰klˆ‰sˆ‰.. A
emre kaya: Kolbasti 130 2.
alichengiz: Radio Sport’tan yayˆ‰n var ama ayr
ˆ‰ntˆ‰lˆ‰ bilgim yok
alichengiz: Belki Kenan’da vardˆ‰r
vugraphzpv: frekansˆ‰ 107.2
alichengiz: Merci :)
alichengiz: 4♠ yˆ…ksek oldu
alichengiz: J ile mi aldˆ‰ gerˆ§ekten?
vugraphzpv: evet
alichengiz: rakip sˆ…rˆ…klemezse kolay kolay
gelinemeyecek bir zon ihalesi
alichengiz: potansiyel bˆ…yˆ…k swing eli
MolvaM: seyircilerimiz 6 pikin yapˆ‰lmasˆ‰na
imkan saˆ layan senaryolarˆ‰ sˆ¶ylˆ…yorlar
bana
arigun: 2 grupta toplam 28 takim lig usulu, ilk 4
ler yine 2 grupta yari final oynayacak.. 5
MolvaM: bence sorun 4 kar4 kˆ¶r deklarelerinde
MolvaM: 2♣ yerine deˆ il 2 yerine 2 veya 3
kastettin
alichengiz: bir elde 3 ihale seˆ§eneˆ i, yarˆ‰ˆ
malˆ‰ briˆ§ gˆ…zel, renkli.. 7
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vugraphzpv: oynayan ˆ§iftlerin yanˆ‰ sˆ‰ra
Arda ˆ iˆ§ek ve Erdem ˆ ztˆ…rk takˆ‰m oyuncular
ˆ‰
fahir: herkese merhaba
tez: kucuk ♣ super
alichengiz: rakip zon oynuyorsa agresiv olmak
gerekiyor, zona davet edilmeden geldiyse
arigun: grup 1.leri final, 2. ler 3-4 maci yapacaklar..
6
alichengiz: 18. elde ˆ§ifte taraflˆ‰ zon yapˆ‰lˆ
‰nca Midyat belediyesi 15 IMP kazandˆ‰
MolvaM: ama gˆ¶rdˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…z gibi artˆ‰k ˆ
lem konusu kapandˆ‰ bu elde
MolvaM: ve halk sokaˆ a dˆ¶kˆ…ldˆ… hoca ne
diyor diye.. T
relrikas: slm herkese antalya’dan sevgiler
arigun: acik 4lu sampiyonasi yarin bsliyor.. Q
ergur: baˆ kanˆ‰m hg
alichengiz : davet sekansˆ‰nda pasiv atak
olabilir
alichengiz: sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰racak
alichengiz: ♣ durumunu bilmiˆ
fahir : Nezih Kubaˆ§ tan gˆ…zel bir defans
hamlesi..♣3
hobakan: tehlikeli tarafˆ‰n el tutmamasˆ‰ lazˆ
‰m ˆ u anda
alichengiz: karo ile ele gelse, ♠ pasˆ‰ atsa,
sonra Q ♣ oynasa expas yapsa vs..
ovncylmz: diger masada da 3♣ pass pass pass
oldu..♠5
hobakan: ki O Kuzey oluyor.
hobakan: bu el iˆ§in tabiki:)
alichengiz: diˆ er masada da 4♠ oynanˆ‰yormu
ˆ , ve aynˆ‰ atak
alichengiz: swing yok :)
hobakan: bu arada 5 numarlˆ‰ elde Kˆ¶ksoy
majˆ¶rler yerine 1 Pik araya giriˆ tercih etmiˆ ve
140 yazmˆ‰ˆ lar.
hobakan: bˆ¶ylelikle 5 imp daha Pekˆ en takˆ‰
mˆ‰na
alichengiz: Swing ne, imp alˆ‰ˆ eriˆ ine swing
diyoruz, batˆ‰rsak 13 alacakken yaptˆ‰rˆ‰
rsak 12 verirsek 25 lik swing oldu deriz
alichengiz: lafˆ‰n geliˆ i
alichengiz: ˆ imdi bir masada 4 pik yapˆ‰lˆ‰r
diˆ erinde batarsa 12 lik swing olacak
MolvaM: onlarˆ‰ yatˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r lˆ…tfen..♠9
tez: oynayanin cakmaktan baska caresi yok
Walddk4: merhaba Mehmet
ovncylmz: sehmus boardu bilmis galiba, 2-way
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checkbacktan sonra 3♠ ye pas:)..♠K
ovncylmz: ya da 2-wayi degisik oynuyorlar
fahir: koz ˆ§ekmeyince ˆ§akalarla battˆ‰
fahir : masada bazen karar vermek ve oyunu
planlamak zor olabiliyor
ovncylmz: bizim 5karo hayallerimiz suda:)
MolvaM: 4 kˆ¶r nur’un elini sanki alelade bir el
gibi gˆ¶sterdi oysa nur’un eli altˆ‰n madeni..♠8
tez: evet ozur 4.renge ortagin renginden baˆ layip
cevap vermek gerekiyordu..
alichengiz: 9 lu pik agresiv uzun rengimiz olduˆ
u iˆ§inde mantˆ‰klˆ‰
ovncylmz: benim cikmam gerekiyor, herkese
tesekkurler, ali cengiz bey ve kenancim hoscakalin
alichengiz: ˆ§ekmek anlaˆ ˆ‰lsa bile, devamˆ
‰ ilginˆ§
alichengiz: Hoˆ ˆ§akal ˆ vˆ…nˆ§
ovncylmz: gorusmek uzere
vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…rler ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§
ovncylmz: iyi calismalar, antalyaya selamlar:)
alichengiz: Merci
alichengiz: +1
emre kaya: Yilankiran-Ankara 127 3... 3
alichengiz: Gib, as karoyu almazsan alamazsˆ‰n
diyor
hobakan: trefl partaj:)
alichengiz: ne expasˆ‰ yorgunluk, ˆ¶zˆ…r.. J
arigun: ama ♠ cok kaliteli ortaginda as varken
ve masada preemptive acis varken disardaki dam’
i dogru yerde bulma ihtimali var.. 5
ovncylmz : oh uzgunum ben 1nt demis gibi
gordum, 3.renkmis ozur diliyorum
fahir: yine pek yorumcumuz yok galiba, herkes
oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndan yorumcu bulmak zor oluyor
alichengiz: yerden ♣ ˆ§evirmesi, belki onˆ¶r 3
taneden oturur, ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰n onˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…
toplar iˆ§in.. 7
alichengiz: -2 oluyor gibi..♠J
alichengiz: Merhaba Mehmet :)..♠3
arigun: sampiyona ile ilgli detaylara www.tbricfed.org.tr
adresinden ulasabilirsiniz..♠A
tez: simdi
yu elden yerden kucuk
MolvaM: rakibe 3 trefl natˆ…rel miydi diye sorup
evet cevap gelince de "ˆ§ok garip" diye baˆ ˆ‰rdˆ
‰ktan sonra kontr atmak nasˆ‰l fikir?
tez: guzel oynadˆ‰..♠2
fahir: merhaba Hayati
tez: oynarsa yapar
tez: super oyun super defans
fahir: kesinlikle
tez: ♣ oynarsa cakar ♠ dami ruayla ezer.
tez: kozu ceker
asini ceker.. ile yere gecer
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tez: ♠ asiyla ele alir
tez: deklarasyon konusundaki sorunlari hallettigimizde
turk oyunculari dunyada ilk siralarda yer alacaklar
ergur: nevzat abi sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ maz
alichengiz: sˆ…per :)
ergur: 1. ile 2.mi oynuyor emre..♣K
tez: ben buna inaniyorum..♣5.. 2
emre kaya: 1. ve 3. oynuyor suan
tez: ♠ 9 defosu sorunu halletti..♣6
tez: baraj yaparken garaj oldu
alichengiz:
yu erken oynadˆ‰ oluyordu
arigun: 2 rdbl felaket olmadi diger oda da faik
abi 3nt yi +1 yapti
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NS:
EW:
o 3♣
c 5
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this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
7
149
Geologi Timah
109
W -1 100
S 5
400
6
9
♠ A10 9
7
K10 7
11
10
A986
6
♣AK 7
♠Q5 3
N ♠K 7 6 4 2
A52
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W E
J
K10 5
S
♣ Q10 8 6 4 3
♣J52
♠J8
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6
Q J986
2
Q7 432
2
♣9
7
450
W: Julius A G
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N: Lusye Bojo
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E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
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4N
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#2 N:: A,5,2,J
#3 N:: 6,K,3, 3
#4 E:: 4,8,Q,A
#5 N:: 8,T,Q,
Walddk2: England 33 behind now. The fat lady is
warming up ....
mdgraham: 6♠ on a finesse
joest: Every time I read a Geza Ottlik book, I get
a score about one board lower than normal the
next time out :)
panja: you cash your winners to rectify count for
the opponents...that is suicidal..
panja: if partner cashes winners, it is fratricidal
roswolf: this has possibilities
henrik_r: That’s why he is at the table and we’re
commentators ;-)
mollerjep: you a right about that one :-)
lestergold: why didnt south bid stayman rather
thyan transfer bid?
drg: understandably agressive lead vs 4 gave up
the overtrick
vugraphzpe : brˆ‚ndum explained that it was
invitational opposite whatever nt they play over 2
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idc: Another swing to EBU, and it looks like they
are going to win the competition..p
mdgraham: which is offside...
chick: the Rabbi can make 6♠ on this
sybarra: ues
sybarra: Yes
chick: none of the rest of us can, though
sybarra: Rabbi rule: play ace when K is singleton
sybarra: (off side)
panja: Geza Ottlik, the correct spelling, I am told,
sorry for that mistake
asig: Lars’ psych in board 2 cost 5 imps as his
counterparts in the OR made 1♣
keylime : for those that joined us a little late,
comparisons won’t be coming until board 9 so
hence the lack of score...2
mariner1: yes that was nice
chick: or onside :)
bobholl: i always feel bad after reading one of
geza’s beauties and realizing that i am not good
enough
viren169: not sure many (if any) play dble as rexfer
viren169: interesting thought though!
lestergold: if he elicited 2d he could have bid 2s
nothing lost then we would not be playing in the
inferiro denomination
Walddk2: and for the first time ever England,
Scotland or Ireland will not win the Camrose
Trophy..p
santyclz: The reached the good grand in the other
room and the bad breaks in ♠s and s beat it.
ady: part score hand
drg: the defence was always entitled to the tricks
they scored, so 1♣ was going down here anyway
Walddk5: Schaltz stayed out of slam on 5
drg: north just had to avoid ever leading a heart
ady: looks like like 3NT e/w can make 12 tricks
with no heart lead..2N!
idc: meanwhile Scotland falling back to last place,
after reaching the dizzy heights of second last for
a short while..p
joest: right bob
mcarroll: If you are playing with your mother it
is matricidal?
ady: 1NT
or a diamond partial
lestergold : n/s can play in dims or even no
trumps
bjacobs: Redouble should continue the transfer,
IMHO..3 !
joest: no that is just dumb
joest: just kidding mom! :)
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mcarroll : A;lways remember - your mother
knows everything lol
ady: 2C! inverted minor raise at least the values
to a limit raaise of 9 tricks
joest: on a non-heart lead a slam makes :)
joest: I confess I would have bid 3NT as West a
few minutes ago..p
mcarroll: that is far more than an inverted raise in
my book
ady: yes needs diamond finesse and club break
nice slam
roswolf: i would have opened as east - now he
has a riskier entry ino the auction
mollerjep: Ulriks nose is very big :-)
hedyg: after 3♠ rebid by S over 1♠ could hardly
play less
hedyg: he might have had his bid
lestergold: well david u think its a part socre
hand
sybarra: is there an upper limit on inverted raises?
..4N
idc: it seems strange to me that the ’6th’ team can
win the Camrose proper..p
mariner1: 2N forcing
raise
mariner1: DBL?
mariner1: yes REDBL for me too
joest: don’t forget the spade split too
panja: the deemed natural 1♣ opening falsely
encourages West to move past 3Nt
roswolf: likely to be a push though
lestergold: and so did i
lestergold: butr they havent
drg: club shift when in with the K♠ is best for
the defence here, but declarer can still make 10
tricks
bjacobs: Perhaps double showed hearts. Anyway,
North seems to have a natural affinity for the 3level..5
mdgraham: I would be shaking in my shoes if I
bid 3♣, but maybe it’s just one of those things
you have to do
sybarra: Mike where did that orginate?
viren169: West was a bit heavy for 4
ady: this can be 2 down if defence gets it right
pentacon: Strange Pas followed by 3NT
lestergold: well its a very good 11 count
vugraphzpe: ulrik might have miscounted?
lestergold: but surely only worth an invite
ady: 11 and a 5 card suit suppose many open
with that so may be flat
ady: may even make it if defence goes wrong
lestergold: defence have five easy tricks if they
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choose to cash them
ady: 6 if west finds a low spade switch
lestergold: the spade switch will be very marked
and i thin k the defence will prevail here
lestergold: declarfer will play on hearts has no
option
bcallaghan: Looks like 6D is down, where the
far worse 6H makes, or even 6NT by North with
the right view...p
Walddk2: England has won the Camrose Trophy
on 47 occasions, Scotland on 12, with these two
teams tied twice. The Republic of Ireland won in
2000, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008, whereas ...
Walddk2: Northern Ireland and Wales have yet to
win
mariner1: I would have DBL 2♠ with N here to
show I had a good hand
alunand7: ohhhh...5 ..stop:)
keylime: tricky hand here, slam on just the N-S
hands looks good, until you factor in the layout..p
keylime: North knows now in concept that their
hand is nearly pure in context
mariner1: needs to show
void some how....
and stay in 6
mdgraham: haven’t the foggiest
mariner1: and 6 may be too much..p
bobholl: S always start agressively :)
hedyg: his pd had passed already and he had 5
losers, pd unlikely to cover 4 of those
lestergold: and that will; make the spade sqitch
guaranteed
mariner1: 3N is very aggressive with the 1N
sitting behind N..♣6
bjacobs: Not a bad idea. This is a very difficult
hand for N/S.
joest: this is the time for the aggressive lead
keylime: the layout is insanely favorable for six
tho - 3-3 spades, and the 150 honors in hearts..♣
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ady: some play unlimited Martin at least a limit
raise to 9 tricks but can be anything
panja: all because of the std 1♣ opening being
termed natural.....this is not West’s fault, as one
might put it
joest: hold on. West does not have a blackwood
call
bobholl: well h’ll gain now :)
henrik_r: Ulrik could consider doubling
santyclz : Still it’s a practical call opposite a
passed hand, many of us would make it.
henrik_r: He has 3 CERTAIN tricks and knows
that diamonds most likely are behaving badly..♣
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pentacon: Declarer has to steal a lot to win 3NT
idc: please note my new personal quest - to get all
the web sites changed that have England winning
in 96 and Scotland in 95..♣9
idc: it is really the other way around - remember,
you heard it here first :)
keylime: 5NT is 2 keys without trump queen not
counting any possible ace of diamonds
mariner1: yes a lead makes it very tough.... ♣
lead actually easier..... ♠ lead nuetral
chick: actually, N may fear a ruff and play A♠
chick: what? the Rabbi’s Rule?
sybarra: that is what Ithought he might do
sybarra: yes where did Rabbi Rule come from
viren169: looks like 11 tricks
hedyg: might be worried about ♠ split
santyclz: However when I bid it, I’d alert it as a
transfer to 4♠ (by the opps).
hedyg: :)
viren169: lol
viren169: sometimes the opps cant get in...
ady: they should make without the heart lead..
A
panja: y
hedyg: pls claim 11!
bjacobs: I have some sympathy for their reaching
the foolish 3NT.. 5
lestergold: yep
lestergold: what else?.. 2
keylime: and there comes the hammer.. J.. 6
sybarra: one of these K’s should be right,
mcarroll: I play it is a good raise to 3, for stronger
hand ther are better poddibilities to describe the
hand - but has certainly worked here.. K
pentacon: Nice and fast cut !
hedyg : i have an appointment in 2 and half
hours.... 3
drg: but he must play a diamond after cashing a
2nd club if the defence had found the shift
mollerjep: indeed he could..♣3
mariner1: no play for 7 that I see..♠4
bobholl : in a lot of partnerships 4 would
RKC..♠8
asig: overtricks now
keylime: this redouble is going to hurt..♠Q
mariner1: and 7 is off from the start
mcarroll: possibilities!
lestergold: and two off as he led low to begin
with
chick: Rabbi’s Rule - The whimsical saying, "
Play the Ace when the King is a singleton". The
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creator of the Rabbi’s Rule is Milton Shattner,
appropriately nicknamed the Rabbi. <--- .....♠A
chick: from a quick search, found here: http://
bridgehands.com/R/index.htm
roswolf: claim!?
hedyg: ty :)
ady: I think west was just worth 4NT after 2NT
invitational.. 8
santyclz: 75% + picking up the s.
mariner1: N did not ask himself WHY E DBL..
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keylime: I think A switch here (or any diamond)
hurts declarer potentially
panja: what if East had 2-4-3-4 shape? would the
bidding have gone same?
lestergold: so 2n would probably be beaten also..
Q
drg: can sqz north out of the A now
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 4
c 3N
7
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Geologi Timah
109
Mitra Buana
3
152
S
-3
300
N
-2
200
7
7
♠10 7 5
6
A Q10
7
7
A J10
5
♣Q J 4 2
♠K J 6 4
N ♠A 9 3
K J652
W E
8754
93
S
♣ K10 6 5 3
♣9 8 7
♠Q 8 2
6
6
98743
5
KQ6 2
6
♣A
7
90
W: D Sacul
W
p
p
p
p
N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
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3♣
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p
p
E: T Asby
S
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2
3♠
p
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¨J,9,6,5
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ª9,Q,K,T
murat : Deniz Tˆ…rkoˆ lu pas deseydi 4 © ’e
#1 W::
#3 N::
#5 N::
#7 W::
#2 S::
#4 N::
#6 E::
#8 E::
gelemeyceklerdi ama eli kesinlikle pas demiyor..
Briˆ§ kazasˆ‰..
tez: is kazasi egitim zayiati
arigun: yani 7 demek mantiksiz degil en kotu ♠
dami 3 ♣ acanin ortaginda ararsin ve yuksek
ihtimaldir
MolvaM: diˆ er masada bu el ilginˆ§ olabilir
MolvaM: ilk el dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda kan gˆ¶vdeyi gˆ¶tˆ…
ren board gelmedi. el daˆ ˆ‰tan bilgisayar bayaˆ ˆ
‰ dinlenmiˆ anlaˆ ˆ‰lan
vugraphzpv: bir sonraki maˆ§ Senyˆ¶r Milli ve
Under26 arasˆ‰nda 15 35 de baˆ layacak
tez: 3♣ pas 3nt olacak ve batacak sanˆ‰yorum
tez: ♣ ler adaletsiz
arigun: defansin da atlama sansi yok gibi..
fahir: ˆ u anda A grubunda 1. ve 2. sˆ‰radaki 2
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takˆ‰mˆ‰n maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ yayˆ‰nlˆ‰yoruz
ergur: nacizhane ben kˆ‰sa yormlar yapˆ‰p
durumu idare etmeye ˆ§alˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰yorum:)
fahir: teˆ ekkˆ…rler
relrikas: iˆ§erde kubaˆ§-tokay biraz kˆ¶tˆ… baˆ
ladˆ‰lar umarˆ‰m toparlarlar bir an ˆ¶nce...
alichengiz: potansiyel swing eliydi
alichengiz: her ˆ ey iyi 6 pik oluyor
alichengiz: squezze, sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rma
alichengiz: ♣ ve ♠ arasˆ‰nda sˆ‰kˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
yordu
alichengiz: ew 4
Walddk4 : http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/
teams_round.php?round=1508 for current
standing and the 12 A-teams in action today
ergur: yada♠
Walddk4: Good morning everyone
alichengiz: ns 2
relrikas: 3
alichengiz: Hello Roland :)
vugraphzpv: http://www.radyospor.com/
alichengiz: yayˆ‰ varsa hep birlikte radyo aˆ§alˆ
‰m :)
alichengiz: diˆ er masada da yapˆ‰lˆ‰nca 370
sayˆ‰lˆ‰k fark 9 imp bˆ…yˆ…kˆ§e bir swing
hobakan: pardon
MolvaM: bu el 1 nt aˆ§ar mˆ‰ydˆ‰ aˆ§maz mˆ
‰ydˆ‰ sorusu ise tamamen ortaklˆ‰k genel
stiline uygun 1 durum
MolvaM: demek mine-dilek aˆ§ˆ‰yorlarmˆ‰ˆ
bu tˆ…r elleri
arigun: mac o boardla dengeley gelecek
arigun: dengeye
alichengiz: ns 4♠
MolvaM: belki 4 karo aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ daha iyi olabilirdi
ama onu da herkes bir konvansiyon oynuyor bu
aralar..1
begse : yo elimine edip tr oynayˆ‰nca ♣ i
tahmin ederse yapˆ‰yor
alichengiz: 4♠ EW
tez: 20 puanlˆ‰k bir 3nt..gayet mantˆ‰klˆ‰..p
alichengiz: EW veya barajˆ‰ yapabilir tabi
ki
MolvaM: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile levent 5 karo aˆ§ma
riskini almˆ‰ˆ
vugraphzpv : 3. maclar 18:00 de ve LikomMersin maci canli yayinlanacak..1♠
MolvaM: ˆ¶zlˆ… sˆ¶z: ara sˆ‰ra grandˆ leme
batmˆ‰yorsanˆ‰z yeterince ˆ§ok grandˆ lem
demiyorsunuz demektir
alichengiz: pik kˆ¶r karo part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ 4
♠ enteresan olur
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alichengiz : neden? :) sen Tokaylaˆ‰ mˆ‰
tutuyorsun?
relrikas: aynˆ‰ takˆ‰mdayˆ‰z
relrikas: :)
alichengiz: Ziya Atilla da pek iyi baˆ lamadˆ‰,
ilk el 1 batarla kurtarabilirdi, !q iyi fikir deˆ
ildi
relrikas: objektif yorumlamaya calisacagim tabi :)
ergur: wc good morning Roland
alichengiz: 3♣ 2♠ veriyor ˆ§aka var ♣ ye
alichengiz: 5 / 5
hobakan : 4 sp dbl lˆ‰ oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in
kontr farkˆ‰nˆ‰ kazandˆ‰ kolbastˆ‰
alichengiz: EW
arigun: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams_
event.php?event=184&stage=397..p
alichengiz: ben biliyorumda seyirci bilsin iˆ§in
sordum Mehmetcim :)
alichengiz: ˆ lem oynamazlarsa anlaˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰r bir
ˆ ey, ihtimali dˆ…ˆ ˆ…k
alichengiz: % 25..2
hobakan: 5 yerine 9.. o yˆ…zden Karo As ˆ¶nem
kazandˆ‰:)
tez: ben eminenin 19 puaniyla 1 nt diye araya
girerdim..p
tez: dbl cok sonuca yonelik konusma degil
ogoksel: dbl die girdiˆ i noktada ortaˆ ˆ‰ndan
gelen yanˆ‰tlara mutlu deˆ il
arigun : turnuvanin running scorlarina board
detaylari butlre vs yukaridaki linkten ulasabilirsiniz
fahir: www.tbricfed.org.tr adresinden sonuˆ§lara
ulaˆ abilirsiniz
tez: 3nt disarda 4/4
oldugu icin sorunsuz
alichengiz : bende kˆ¶kten takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n
oyuncusuyum, dˆ…n akˆ am ˆ¶nemli bir iˆ im
gereˆ i dˆ¶nmek zorunda kaldˆ‰m
relrikas: "3 seviyesinde support var mˆ‰?" diye
dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…yor olabilir ziya abi
alichengiz: arkadaˆ lar, Tˆ…rkiye 4 lˆ… takˆ‰
mlar ˆ ampiyonasˆ‰nˆ‰ seyrediyoruz
alichengiz: -1 veya 2 4♠ ♣ yi nasˆ‰l oynadˆ‰ˆ
ˆ‰na baˆ lˆ‰ olarak
alichengiz: asˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ§ekmeyen..
MolvaM: bu zon durumunda bu elle multi aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ
ˆ‰nˆ‰ ben pek beˆ enmedim..3♣
tez: 3nt yi sevdim
tez: ♠10 atak edilecek
alichengiz: bugˆ…n 4 . gˆ…n
alichengiz: seyirciler,
demek yerine michaels
yapˆ‰labilir miydi? diye soruyor geˆ§en el iˆ§in,
anlaˆ maya baˆ lˆ‰
tez: ortak canli pozisyonda iki rakip konusurken
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benim 1 nt den 16 19 bekler zaten..p
alichengiz: bu ˆ ampiyonada oynamak gerekir,
harika zaman Antalya bu zamanlarda ˆ§ok gˆ…
zel
relrikas: ˆ¶yle kabul etmiˆ olmalˆ‰ ki 3pik dedi
alichengiz: batar gibi
alichengiz: , 2 ♠
alichengiz: 4♠
murat: Hatice’nin eliyle 4 denilebilirdi..3♠
murat: atak gˆ¶sterme amaˆ§lˆ‰
MolvaM: ama siz bana bakmayˆ‰m
vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m bi anlaˆ mazlˆ‰k oldu
alichengiz: 3♠ dˆ¶trlˆ… tutuˆ dengeli davet
MolvaM: defansta ˆ§ok as var ama batˆ‰rmaya
yetmeycek
vulkan: hoˆ geldin Cengiz
MolvaM: gˆ…naydˆ‰n cengiz :)
alichengiz: 55 oynuyorlarsa
alichengiz: eˆ er 5 ’e geinirse, ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ iyi,
aksi halde, ucuz baraj olacak
arigun: 2. dbl biraz agresif oldu..p
MolvaM : kˆ¶r atak edilirse deklaranˆ‰n pik
empasˆ‰ atmamasˆ‰ gerek
relrikas: 2lide X takˆ‰m maˆ§ˆ‰nda bu zonda
tercihe kalmis... love cok ortak tutsada piˆ man
degiliz
gravity: 5-4-2-2 gˆ…zel bir 17,sanˆ‰rˆ‰m 1nt
tercih etmezdim,eger 15-17 oynanˆ‰yorsa.
tez: 5 da oluyor
alichengiz: 4♣ kontrol cue bid olmalˆ‰
alichengiz: -1
tez: ilk konusma yanlis olunca duzeltmek zor
artik..4
ogoksel: irem iˆ§inden ’pas de artˆ‰k’ diyordur:)
alichengiz: 3♠ oluyor emniyetli oyunla
alichengiz : Nihal ˆ§ok dengeli ve minimum
davet eli var
hobakan: oldukˆ§a kritik
alichengiz: atak sorusu oldu o el
hobakan: ancak atak bulundu
alichengiz: Anadolu’da 4 ’yu konvensiyon
oynamayana kˆ‰z vemiyorlar Murat bey
alichengiz: Merhaba Nafiz abi :)
MolvaM: haldun fikretten bir sˆ…per skor daha
tez: eminenin eli onor mezarligi:)..p
MolvaM : multi en azˆ‰ndan rakibin 5-4 pik
fitlerini bulmalarˆ‰nˆ‰ engelledi
tez: riskli ama gerekli
kabexnuf: zannetmiyorum, irfan ortakta da tek
vardˆ‰r deyip demiˆ tir
alichengiz: 2nt= J2nt, 4 lˆ… tutuˆ aˆ§ar+
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nafiz: kontrolumuz dˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ndaki kesintiden
dolayˆ‰ ˆ¶zˆ…r dileriz
alichengiz: 4+ tutuˆ
alichengiz : ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ gelmedi ˆ imi yapˆ‰
labilir
vugraphzpv: teknik arˆ‰zadan dolayˆ‰ ˆ¶zˆ…r
dileriz
MolvaM: nafiz zorluya hoˆ geldiniz diyelim :)
tez: guneyin ♠ defos etmemesi gerekiyor..p
alichengiz: bu elde Ege takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in kˆ¶tˆ…
alichengiz: hmmm
ovncylmz: pik teki karo asi vardir dedi irfan:)..p
ergur: 3nt uygun kontrat
relrikas : 2 ♠ ilginc tutamasinlar diye nasilsa
ortaktaki majorler eˆ it sayˆ‰da diye sanˆ‰rˆ‰
m
relrikas: bendekiler de eˆ it gibisinden oldu sanˆ
‰rˆ‰m
tez: yusuf 5 diyecekler.. leri 4/4 gorunce
uzulecekler diyor
tez: 4♠ elim iyi.. kontrolum yok demek
alichengiz: ♣ ˆ§ˆ‰kar sanˆ‰rˆ‰m, Q
hobakan: normal olarak tabiki.:)
MolvaM: ercan pik asˆ‰ ˆ§ekerek baˆ lar..♣3
tez: 8 de kalˆ‰yor yinede
ergur: sp defos ederse-1 olur
alichengiz: konvensiyon kartlarˆ‰ TBF webte
olmasˆ‰ lazˆ‰m, milli takˆ‰m seˆ§meleri iˆ§in,
seˆ§melere katˆ‰lan ˆ§iftler oraya veriyor
tez: ama ♠ onor ikili anlarsa..♣2
tez:
atagiyla batacaklar
fahir: karodan ˆ lem ararken pikte durmayˆ‰
tercih etmek ilginˆ§ oldu
tez: yoksa ♣ lere
ler gider
tez: guneyde
kontrolu yok bu biliniyor
tez:
rua kimde..sorun o
tez: ♠ vale baslayinca yapacak
arigun: uygun ve ♠ de sorun yok disardaki
dagilim iyi
murat: Mersin defansta kalmayˆ‰ tercih etti..
Likom iˆ§in potansiyel imp fˆ‰rsatˆ‰...♣9
ovncylmz: ama yapari icin degil bence
ovncylmz: rakip cakamaz artik diye
vugraphzpv: o da deˆ iˆ ik bi strateji kim bilir ne
dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ…:)
ovncylmz: irfan cin gibidir:)
tez: ortaktaysa
as cikmak gerekiyor
tez: zor atak
alichengiz: baˆ ka bir ˆ ey ˆ§ˆ‰karsa bakalˆ‰m..
alichengiz: 5 karoda sorun?
alichengiz: 4♠ iyi kontrat yapˆ‰labilir tek zon
arigun: michales yerine dbl daha mantikli muhakkak
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alichengiz: kontrolsˆ…z ˆ lem giriˆ imi
MolvaM: nevzat kˆ…bid bile yapamamˆ‰ˆ ken 5
karo demek iyi midir?
alichengiz: :)
MolvaM: atak hala kritik
alichengiz: 1♠ aˆ§ˆ‰nca Murat’ta dev var ama
ergur: ˆ imdioldu..♣A
alichengiz: bugˆ…n A grubundan 6 B grubundan
2 ve toplam 8 takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n gˆ…n boyu swiss
devam edecek
fahir: yarˆ‰n swiss deˆ il danish oynayacaklar
alichengiz: diˆ er takˆ‰mlar eleniyorlar, Board
A Match oynarlar veya Antalya ˆ§ok gˆ…zel bu
zamanlarda, Gezerler
fahir: yˆ‰llardˆ‰r bu ˆ…lkede danish ve swiss i
bir tˆ…rlˆ… anlatamadˆ‰k
vugraphzpv: aynˆ‰ anda iki masayˆ‰ izlemek
isteyenler bu linkten yararlanabilir
MolvaM: evet sˆ…per kontrat
MolvaM: ama herhalde koz veya yerin rengini ˆ§ˆ
‰kmaz
alichengiz: +1
MolvaM: hmmm
arigun: bir sonraki maclar 15:30 da basliyor,
Major Bogazici-Antalya maci vugraphddan
yayinlanacak.. 3
MolvaM: oyun oluyorsa yorumcular bˆ¶yle der de
ˆ ilmi tez? :)
tez: 3nt gibi kutsal kontratˆ‰ gecmek icin cok
gecerli sebepleriniz olmalˆ‰
gravity: gˆ…zel bir 3nt idi
vugraphzpv: gˆ…ney dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…rken dekleran
claim yaptˆ‰..♣6
tez: biz elleri gorup as atak ederdim diyebiliriz
MolvaM: ˆ§ˆ‰karmˆ‰ˆ meˆ er
alichengiz: bˆ¶ylece oldu.. A
alichengiz: ♣ ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lsa zordu gerˆ§i
MolvaM : ama ele geˆ§erken hangi minˆ¶rˆ…
kullanacak?
tez: du bakali nolcek:).. 5
ergur: 9 kolay
alichengiz: diˆ erleri iˆ§in bir platform bilmiyorum
alichengiz: hˆ‰mm ˆ imdi ilginˆ§
alichengiz: yapabilir
alichengiz:
K ˆ§ekecek,
alichengiz: kozla yere Kˆ¶re ˆ§akacak
alichengiz: kozla yere ve Kˆ¶re ♣ kaˆ§acak rakip
ˆ§akarken
alichengiz:
♣ kaˆ§mak iˆ§inde..
MolvaM: gene de batacak
alichengiz: koz dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ… iyi
alichengiz: -2 gibi ˆ imdi
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MolvaM: fikrette daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m sˆ…per. biraz da
puan olsaymˆ‰ˆ daha iyi olurmuˆ tabii
alichengiz: hehe
arigun: ayni anda diger masayi da seyretmek
isteyenler icin http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/
alichengiz: Tek K iˆ e yaramadˆ‰
alichengiz: o K ♣ A olsa sorunu kalmayacaktˆ‰
alichengiz: iki ♣ onˆ¶rˆ…nden birinin iˆ§erde
olma ihtimali % 75 civarˆ‰nda
alichengiz: 75 e zon iyidir
begse: burda ♣ oynanmazsa elimine ediyor ama
bir ˆ¶nˆ¶r iˆ§erde zaten
MolvaM: ama batˆ‰yorsa "tek taraflˆ‰ ˆ§ok
riskli karar aldˆ‰" derdik hemen.. A
tez: yerden
oynarsa
tez: guney 10 yada 9 girmezse
tez: 8 li
koyarak yapara gelebilir
tez: ama .. 3
alichengiz: A koymaz sanˆ‰rˆ‰m.. 2.. 4
tez: yok elimden geldiˆ ince el gˆ¶ren bˆ…lbˆ…ll
ˆ…ˆ ˆ… yapmamaya ˆ§aliˆ iyorum:).. J
tez: as ♠ koyup koz oynar emi.. 9
alichengiz: yaptˆ‰rˆ‰r yoksa
relrikas: baˆ tan 1NT acinca ucup gitti.. 6
gravity: 1 karo acilsa da bulunmasi kolay degildi
gerci.
MolvaM: 11 imp daha
alichengiz: Barˆ‰ˆ avcˆ‰ bildi Bordu :).. 5
tez: onor sur onor yapilsaydi yinede olacakti
alichengiz: Karo q’yu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…rmeˆ e oynuyor
Arˆ‰gˆ…n
vugraphzpv: eˆ it diye claim yapˆ‰ldˆ‰.. T
ergur: ˆ imdi
arigun:
saglamak icin yere yeterli antre yok
galiba, alternatif oyun partaj varsaymazsak T
empasi ile yere antre yaratmaya calismak.. 2
alichengiz: ne demiˆ atalarˆ‰mˆ‰z, rakip iki
renk okuyup zona geldiyse, diˆ er renkleri ˆ§ˆ‰k
vugraphzpv: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/
client.php.. Q
alichengiz: Butler Rankingler, oyuncularˆ‰n nas
ˆ‰l oynadˆ‰klarˆ‰nˆ‰n bilinmesi iˆ§in ˆ§ˆ‰
karˆ‰lˆ‰yor, herhangi baˆ ka bir ˆ¶nemi yok..
7
alichengiz: antre kalmadˆ‰ kˆ¶r iˆ§in
tez: as verip saglamaya calisiyor..belkide
den 2 sefer gecis var..♠3
ergur: fazla oldu
alichengiz: zorlu assael, rusinov atak yapˆ‰yor,
KQ dan Q ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰yor
ogoksel: yer bitti ele bakalˆ‰m..♠2
tez: birileride bize el goren bulbulu der
alichengiz: UDCA oynuyorlar
MolvaM: turgay sesyˆ‰lmaz eski tˆ…rkiye ˆ
ampiyonlarˆ‰mˆ‰zdandˆ‰r..♠J..♠5
alichengiz: direkt karoyu uˆ§ursa daha iyi :)..♠4
alichengiz: kˆ¶r ˆ§akmayˆ‰nca -3
alichengiz: uzattˆ‰..♠7
ergur: 5..♠A
tez: belki saˆ dˆ‰r ♠:)..♠8..♠9
arigun: T south da olsaydi 8 li ile yere gecer
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yere gectiginde 5. yu kullanirdi..♠Q..♠K..♠T
tez: iyi oynadi
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Mitra Buana
3
152
Geologi Timah
109
S
-3
300
N
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200
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♠10 7 5
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A Q10
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A J10
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♣Q J 4 2
♠K J 6 4
N ♠A 9 3
K J652
W E
8754
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♣ K10 6 5 3
♣9 8 7
♠Q 8 2
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N: Lusye Bojo
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E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
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mariner1: 200 may only cost one or 2 imps
mariner1: 2 is about it here
mariner1: 20 - 20
chen_xin: ˆ ´¥ˆ ˆ“ˆ ˆflˆ ´“
chen_xin: 19´‚´–
chen_xin: ˆ ´¥ˆ ˆ“ˆ ˆflˆ ´“´…ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆ
sybarra: this is our last bd of this match I think
bobholl : i would bid a simple 3NT as west
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partner having 12-14 balanced :)
panja: 1 more slam
ziff: 4 X wouldn’t have been funny, either
drg: hard to get there looking at the east hand
ziff: true
galadriel: E too good for strong NT..p..p
idc : I’ve been checking back recently over
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lestergold : yes the spade switch will always
become obvious on the hand
ady: this time 3NT will make
keylime: both rooms are playing at relatively the
same pace it appears..1N
keylime: 3 is a pass/correct bid here
joest: they’ll do well to get to slam after an initial
pass
roswolf: this is not a game that should bebid imo
hedyg: drury?..p
viren169: or just 4
lestergold: because declarer has to expose the
heart position to make tricks
bobholl: this slam is better..2 !
panja: 6 seems to be cold
santyclz: Too much and too flat for a 4 call.
ziff: A kick under the table should do the trick,
though :)
Walddk2: Desperation time. 1♠ has little merit in
my opinion..p
mcarroll: an unusual contract - to say the least
joest: it is possible diamonds will never be bid!
ady : bidding catastrophy in OR
6
on
played in 4-1 fit
joest: it wouldn’t surprise me to see it go 2NT3NT from here
hedyg: 3♣ bergen, 9-11
hedyg: also by passed hand
lestergold: coffe hand
mariner1: well 4♣ might work here...........2
panja: there is so much of inequality in treating
suits..6 to AKQ and 4 poor to J....the dbl
treats them equal
bobholl: what would 2nt mean in your partnership
now ?
keylime : CR is playing board 1 now, so the
scoreboard will get some use now..p
chick: 2 multi ... 4 says play game in your
suit, whichever it is
mdgraham : pass-or-correct 4 , assuming a
weka two in a major with South
sybarra: Thanks to our terrific operator in Estoril,
Portugal. Job well done
roswolf: and opening 1nt is a good way to stay
low
mollerjep : after a slow start Schous team is
fighting back...
idc: the first decade of this century worst ever for
Scotland: we have been below average in Camrose
table for 7 of last 10 years..2N
bcallaghan : As the Multi didn’t work a few
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boards back, he’s opened a thin 1-bid instead.
mariner1: DBL too strong for me
sybarra: Thanks also to my co commentators
Mike Graham, Cornelia Yoder and Panja.
mdgraham: South would do something different
with a strong hand, if that is part of their Multi.
mdgraham: yes, thanks operator. Very smooth
sybarra: Thanks also to the Portugese Bridge
Federation and Luis Correia for bringing this
wonderful tourney to bbo.
sybarra: we are back in just a few moments after
the other table finishes
panja: what is the best way to play this?
drg: :)
idc: after hardly even being out of top 2 out of 4
since ... it started..p
Walddk2: In 1936 was it?
mariner1: 1♠ very aggressive and E must have
seen his p’s overcalls before
sybarra: S is only an 8 count!
roswolf: but perhaps they will just ignore me!?:(
santyclz: With honors in the short suits.
jbgood: Patrick is still young at heart
sybarra: I dont see why S wanted to press on,
even playing puppet
roswolf: i suppose 3nt has a play
ady: not sure what 2 is here
lestergold: ten on top
bjacobs: Right. You’d have to sedate me as East
if I saw 1♠..3N
bjacobs: Otherwise 3NT would be bid in short
order
sybarra: you were right Jack
mcarroll: This could be interesting - the ♠ bids
may help to get to a slam
ady: game bid will be fine for n/s will get back
losses from previous board
joest : I thought 3 ♠ was an overbid. Is east
contemplating more??
mcarroll: 4♠ will be expensive
hedyg: if he plays K as well....
lestergold: limit rais ein clubs we see
ady: seems so assume 3♣ immediate preemptive
lestergold: too good for the preempt i assume
ady: spec tells me 2
is 10+ hcp and 5 clubs
lestergold: ten and only ten not an exciting hand
ady: 5+ clubs
keylime : this has some good chances now layout again favorable for declarer..p
mariner1: can he make this?
keylime: I think he plays East for shortness in
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sybarra: likely taking 9 tricks and home ..p
henrik_r: Jacob-Ulrik play 1NT=6-11(12) and
thus 2-o-1 is almost forcing to game
asig: won’t help, they use screens
chen_xin: ˆ ´‹ˆ ˆ„´‰ˆ ´ ´‰3s..p
roswolf: this looks a solid gain for jourdain
santyclz: I predict +1. See if it’s my day for the
track.
sybarra: hope so, then Geoffrey and I will send
you!
roswolf: lol
mollerjep: and 2nt is of course forcing
mollerjep: and not like in esbjerg where it means:
we are probably already to high :-)
hedyg: ♣ switch is a killer
hedyg: else he makes it
santyclz: But is neither automatic nor impossible.
viren169: Was 8 a count of attitude card?
hedyg: it was Malmo, whatever that means..
santyclz: Even playing attitude 1st, most give
count when qxx in dmy.
vugraphzpe: means upside down count = odd
hedyg: ty :)
hedyg: so he showed an odd nr
hedyg: good we have Matias to help us!
hedyg: the CC is in Danish of course
hedyg: btw they call drury Toronto i saw
idc: yup..♣9
keylime: so it looks right to play to the K♠ and
back up
mariner1: he knows E has most everything.......
except ♠
henrik_r: I think that 3C would only be invitational
after 2D, all other bids forcing to game
bcallaghan: Declarer may prefer a low diamond
from hand instead of weakening a side suit. ..♣A
sybarra: getting out of Dodge I mean
ady: 4S would not play badly
hedyg: wowwwwwwwwww
viren169: yes!..♣6
ziff: A kick _over_ the table, then :)
asig: :)
ianrei: he’s probably thinking of ducking the
lead..♣4
alunand7: difficult...and down...!!!
mariner1: needs to preserve 8♠ as entry.. 3
mariner1: well the K actually make this easier
keylime: yep. has to unblock trumps to be able to
work on the heart play
mariner1: now he can surely make it
mdgraham: there was a funny hand once where
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lestergold : dim switch needd to prevent any
more oveertricks.. Q
lestergold: jdims
lestergold: actually not necessary stioll only ten
joest: in the other room, south opened and after
rebidding 2 , south heard a 3 call from partner.
Partner thought it was a splinter; South thought it
was natural. Hence 5 four down.. K
henrik_r: Based on their convention card Jacob
should finesse
henrik_r: 9 usually promises one higher card
henrik_r: From 987x they would apparently lead
the 8
henrik_r: But earlier we talked about who my
favorite is
hedyg: wd Ron!
viren169: East had it worked out...
viren169: had plenty of time to work it out
hedyg: LOL
ady: 6 the only notable swing so far stopped
in 4NT open room
lestergold: really that was such a good 6d and
they had 30 combined points and so,lid 9 card fit
mdgraham: His partner, also an international,
had a 2263 19-count, and decided that 2 had to
be a weak major, so he passed ..♠3..♠2
sybarra: gin for 7 something I suppose ..♠J
mdgraham: unfortunately the multi was a balanced
21-count.
panja: thx all, bye
sybarra: thx all we can wander to other table
mdgraham: Thabnks all, bye for now - see you
soon
vugraphzmh: We will be back in 10 minutes
time ... ty all ... special thanks to our wonderful
commentators
jbgood: one lead that didnt give anything away
christinas: isn’t there an endplay here?
henrik_r: I think it is even money and that the
match will be decided by how much we see of
Hemberg-Schaltz and Boesgaard-Nielsen..♠5
mariner1: now has it if he plays ♠ right..♠K
keylime: smooth sailing now for declarer; they
know the situation
keylime: CR: First imp recorded as Multi was not
opened, leading to a calm 3NT auction.
hedyg: hi Christina :)..♠7
christinas: ruff diamonds, pull the trumps and
play a club
hedyg: no
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hedyg: E has the 10♣
christinas: unless W keeps tje 9 of clubs, and
that looks easy, if p has the jack
christinas: but he is gonna play for it..♠9..♠8..
♠4..♠T..♠A
hedyg: no entry to dummy to ruff 1 ..♠Q
asig: 9 tricks available now
santyclz: Not possible if spots are correct and
♣ exit must be from dummy... 9
viren169: nothing better to do!
henrik_r : Both pairs have been inconsistent
during the round robin.. 2
lestergold: cl
viren169: why not.. 5.. T.. T.. J
roswolf: probably only 8 tricks.. 4
jbgood: kibs dont understand the line of play must say I dont either
hedyg: did not unblock .. 4
santyclz: Looking bad for the track. I expected a
black suit lead...♣8
christinas: except he didn’t unblock the hearts
roswolf: :).. 7
keylime: declarer’s home here..♣K..♣2
sybarra: running 5
trick may better first?
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arigun: bir sorunda yerdeki 2 imis :9
tez: Fahir Uzumcu yeni federasyon baskanimiz
murat : Likom ˆ stanbul ˆ ampiyonu olarak
Antalya’ya geldi. ˆ ok rahat bir ˆ ampiyonluk
kazandˆ‰lar.
MolvaM: bildiˆ im kadarˆ‰ ile 2. maˆ§lar saat
1300te ama TBF sitesinden bakabilirsiniz
MolvaM: vugraf programˆ‰ http://online.bridgebase.com
/vugraph/schedule.php
ovncylmz: 6kor?
vugraphzpv: turnuva programˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶rmek iˆ
§in bu linkten yararlanabilirsiniz
Itemid=99
relrikas : ben ˆ u 1100 un hikayesine bakip
gelecegim fazla alisveris olmadigi icin dikkatimi
cekti
alichengiz: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k apel ters sayˆ‰
alichengiz: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m Smith Echo da oynuyorlard
ˆ‰r, yine kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k
Walddk4: http://www.bridgeguys.com/SGlossary
/SmithSignals.html
alichengiz: evet 3 ’e kontur enteresandˆ‰
tez : alici koza dursun efendi diyecek.. ♣ leri
oynayip butun kayiplarini atacakti
fahir: swiss birbirine puan olarak yakˆ‰n takˆ‰
mlarˆ‰n birden fazla oynamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰, danish
ise yakˆ‰n skorlu takˆ‰mlarˆ‰n daha ˆ¶nceden
karˆ ˆ‰laˆ ˆ‰p karˆ ˆ‰laˆ madan oynadˆ‰klarˆ
‰ movement tˆ…rˆ…dˆ…r
alichengiz: oynayan ♣ K’yˆ‰ uˆ§urmanˆ‰n
daha iyi olduˆ unu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…ˆ olmalˆ‰
MolvaM: 2 nolu bord diˆ er masada maalesef 3nt
oynanmamˆ‰ˆ
MolvaM: oynanmˆ‰ˆ
MolvaM : dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile 4 kˆ¶re gelselerdi
filizin nasˆ‰l oynayacaˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ gˆ¶remedik
MolvaM: siz siz olun sek onˆ¶rlerden puan dˆ…ˆ ˆ
…n
alichengiz: misfit eli
alichengiz: tanrˆ‰ konuˆ anˆ‰ korusun :)
alichengiz: aktiv bir el oabilir
tez: 1nt de bitecek konusma sanˆ‰yorum..1♣
vugraphzpv: 1♣ aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰= 12 14 dengeli
el, 15 21 trefler yada 18+ herhangi bir el demekmi
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alichengiz: Merci Baˆ kan
fahir: nedense yanlˆ‰ˆ olarak yerleˆ miˆ bizim ˆ
…lkemize
alichengiz : ew oyun aˆ§arsa kˆ¶tˆ… bir yere
gelebilir
MolvaM: sn baˆ kanˆ‰mˆ‰z fahir ˆ…zˆ…mcˆ…
teyid etti. saat 13teymiˆ 2. maˆ§lar..1♠
kabexnuf: nasˆ‰l desinler ki
vugraphzpv: sanˆ‰rˆ‰m bu boardˆ‰ 6 oynamazlar
alichengiz: diˆ er masada EW 3nt oynuyor bu eli,
+1 olacak gibi gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor
vugraphzpv: gˆ…nˆ…n son maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰ yayˆ‰
nlˆ‰yoruz
vugraphzpv: bu maˆ§tan sonra belirlenecek final
takˆ‰mlarˆ‰
sas2nt: kor 10 lu empasˆ‰ kor partaj olmayˆ‰
nca da iyi..2♣
fahir: Bu arada bir haberimiz var, bu turnuvanˆ‰
n medya sponsoru Radyo Sport her gˆ…n iki defa
canlˆ‰ olarak Antalya’ya baˆ lanarak dinleyicilerine
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geliˆ meleri aktarˆ‰yor
vugraphzpv: dimi ˆ¶vˆ…nˆ§
vugraphzpv: oradan 6 kolay
ergur: diˆ er masada 1nolu bortta nevzat abi 3
puanla 2 h aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ
alichengiz: 4♠ sorunsuz NS iˆ§in
alichengiz: swiss tutuˆ larˆ‰ oynuyorlar sanˆ‰rˆ
‰m
alichengiz: bu elle 4♣ diyebilir
alichengiz: 4 lˆ… tutuˆ dengeli el, kontrol as, 1215
vugraphzpv: A gurubundan 6 B gurubundan 2
takˆ‰m yarˆ‰n final oynayacak
alichengiz: yeni renk forcing olmalˆ‰
alichengiz : Son devreye girerken durum: 1Kolbastˆ‰ 273; 2-Pekˆ en 255; 3-Matrix 253; 4Senyˆ¶rler 251; 5-Noname 251; 6-Yˆ‰lankˆ‰
ran 246; 7-Midyat 240; 8-Zabunoˆ lu 218
MolvaM: hakan kontr ile uyandˆ‰rabilecek mi
alichengiz: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ diˆ er
detaylar iˆ§in
hobakan: teˆ ekkˆ…r ederiz
MolvaM : ama kˆ‰sa bir aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰ˆ tˆ¶reni
dolayˆ‰sˆ‰ ile biraz gecikme olabilirmiˆ .
merak etmeyiniz..p
MolvaM: hazˆ‰r kendisi de buradayken teˆ ekkˆ
…rlerimizi sunalˆ‰m TBF’ye
relrikas: kˆ¶tˆ… olmuˆ
alichengiz: kontrol az
tez: vale ♠ e ruayi koyduktan sonraki durumu
konusuyorum
alichengiz: 4 sorunsuz
MolvaM: ˆ ikan ile kontr demek pek hoˆ deˆ il
ama
ogoksel: doˆ u tarafˆ‰ndan 6 sorunsuz,batˆ‰
tarafˆ‰ndan ataˆ ˆ‰na bilmeye kalˆ‰yor..Deklere
edilirmi derseniz bence hayˆ‰r..p
tez:
ataˆ indan sonra ♠ oynansa batˆ‰yordu
ergur: 4h sˆ…perr
alichengiz: 4
derse kontroller iyi
ergur: 3.♣ h atacaktˆ‰
alichengiz: durumunu bilebilirse oynayan 5 ’
a kadar yapˆ‰labilir NS tarafˆ‰ndan
alichengiz: 18. el diˆ er masada 3nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰
nca 14 senyˆ¶rlere, maˆ§a denge geldi
fahir: Hergˆ…n 15:15 ve 18:30 da radyodan geliˆ
meleri, sonuˆ§larˆ‰ ve briˆ§ ile ilgili diˆ er
haberleri izleyebilirsiniz..2
MolvaM: bizlere bu turnuvayˆ‰ en baˆ ˆ‰ndan
vugrafta izleme olanaˆ ˆ‰ saˆ ladˆ‰klarˆ‰iˆ§in
alichengiz: otaˆ ˆ‰m kontur dese o durumda ˆ§
ok iyi eli var anlarˆ‰m
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MolvaM: zon durumuna gˆ¶re
hobakan: iyi akˆ amlar herkese...
alichengiz: j2nt oynuyorlaarmˆ‰ˆ anlaˆ ˆ‰
lan..p
alichengiz: aˆ§ar el 4 lˆ… tutuˆ
alichengiz: ♠ alert edildi, tek sorusu mu acaba?
vugraphzpv: A gurubunun maˆ§a girmeden ˆ¶
nceki durumu
vugraphzpv: Kolbastˆ‰1.(201)
vugraphzpv: Peksen2.(195)
vugraphzpv: izmir Belediye Beyaz3.(193)
vugraphzpv: Midyat Bel.4.(190)
vugraphzpv: Matrix 5.(183.13)
alichengiz: NS zor durumda 4♣ diyebilirlerse
fazla hasar olmaz
vugraphzpv: Senyˆ¶r Milli6.(183)
vugraphzpv: Eritman Yilankiranankara Zabunoglu
takip eden takˆ‰mlar
MolvaM: evet
sas2nt: ˆ imdi karo partaj kor partaj olmasaydˆ‰
da yapamayacaktˆ‰..p
arigun: evet ama yerde 3. antre yok zaetn 2li
kucuk, yani 10 empasinin hicbir faydasiyok
fahir: 107.2 Radyo Sport, ancak tˆ…m ˆ ehirlerde
aynˆ‰ frekans mˆ‰ bilemiyorum.
ogoksel: Bricin medya aˆ§ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰ hepimiz i
ˆ§in ˆ§ok iyi bir geliˆ me
kabexnuf: dbl cok iyi
vugraphzpv: eˆ er dbl olursa 9 alˆ‰rlar
kabexnuf: bu pas forcing mi acaba
alichengiz: hep Swiss A Grubu filan yazˆ‰lˆ‰
nca insanˆ‰n aklˆ‰na yerleˆ iyor
MolvaM: selam ˆ¶zgˆ…r
alichengiz : 5 de yapˆ‰labilir ama gerek
duymayacaklardˆ‰r
MolvaM: nevzat kurtarma operasyonu mu dˆ…ˆ ˆ
…nˆ…yor?
alichengiz: ve batma ihtimali daha yˆ…ksek
MolvaM: 2 pik?
arigun: dogru..3♣
alichengiz: karo ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰p kˆ¶r dˆ¶nˆ…lˆ…
nce batˆ‰yordu, kˆ¶r defansˆ‰na evet yapˆ‰lˆ
‰yor
fahir: bu iki tˆ…r, satranˆ§ta uygulanˆ‰r, isviˆ§
re usulˆ… ve danimarka usulˆ… olarak bilinir
alichengiz: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/
eventresults.php?event=20715
alichengiz: sonuˆ§lar iˆ§in
MolvaM: emin baˆ aran davet formaliteleriyle
zaman kaybetmezdi eskiden
alichengiz: 2
ve 2 As ile davet etse yˆ…ksek
olacaktˆ‰
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‰k bir el oluncada 4© kaˆ§abilir
tez: dogru taraftan oynanacak..¨ atagi tehlikeliydi..3
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alichengiz: ortakta iyice
tez: kuzeyi 1Nt si saldˆ‰rganca
alichengiz: smith echo, atakla ilgili her iki tarafˆ
‰ndan, ataktan sonraki rakibin oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
renge veya ortaˆ ˆ‰n oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ renge
uyulurken bilgi vermeˆ e deniyor
alichengiz: 3nt 5332 15-17
ergur: 3nt oynayabilirler
MolvaM: ege takˆ‰mˆ‰ 2 imp almˆ‰ˆ gibi gˆ¶r
ˆ…nˆ…yor ama emin deˆ ilm. egale olabilir
MolvaM: 500ler egale olacak gibi sanki
ergur: 6sp ..p
alichengiz: diˆ er tˆ…m ayrˆ‰ntˆ‰lar iˆ§in http:
//www.tbricfed.org.tr/
alichengiz: 3nt ye ♣ atak yapˆ‰abilir mi?
kabexnuf: oyleymis..p
ergur: h pasˆ‰ geˆ§tiˆ i iˆ§in tabii
fahir: gˆ…zel baraj
alichengiz : A pik pik devamˆ‰na 3 pik 4-5
batabilir
tez :
rua kuzeyde olsa bu seferde batinin
oynamasi gerekiyordu..p
ogoksel: koz Q gerˆ§ekten gereklimi?
ovncylmz: wow=)
alichengiz: yapˆ‰lˆ‰rsa da 2 tur boˆ layˆ‰p
karo saˆ lanˆ‰p yapˆ‰labiliyor gerˆ§i
alichengiz: ♠ ˆ§ˆ‰karsa hemen 9
arigun: ♣ ciye antre olmadigi icin tercihe bagli 2
verirse 9 love oluyor
vugraphzpv: Fikret Aydogdu direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ ˆ‰rd
ˆ‰ masaya
MolvaM: fikret 2♣ e kontr deseydi evet ama 2
XX ’den aˆ zˆ‰ yandˆ‰ 1az
arigun: 2 ♣ boslamak kayydiyla
vugraphzpv: 2♣ alert edilmedi diye
arigun: bu arada ♠ partajina gidebilir
vugraphzpv: atak bekletiliyor
alichengiz: hmmm
arigun: acik oda biraz hizli oynadi galiba oyuncular
cikti..♣T
tez: bosu bosuna dam soruyor
MolvaM: evet kandemir’in uzun bir renge gˆ…
venerek 3nt dediˆ i belli
pikonlu: .
relrikas: bi egale board daha sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
alichengiz: 4 ta sorun yok, ˆ lem ise mˆ…mkˆ
…n deˆ il
alichengiz: Gib 3 batar diyor :)
arigun: ♠ atagi normal
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vugraphzpv: board oynatˆ‰lacak karar verilecek
alichengiz: yˆ…ksek sesle bu 2♣ ne desek nasˆ
‰l olur Paˆ am?
tez: o uzun renk ♠ olamaz..♣5
MolvaM: ama pik rengini deˆ mek ve olasˆ‰ bir
♠Q ’a kaptˆ‰rma korkusunu anlayabiliyor insan
MolvaM: artˆ‰k 7-4 daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mlˆ‰ ve ˆ ikanlˆ
‰ eller bekliyoruz bilgisayarddan
tez: biri dbl deyip atak gosterecek..basina bela
alacak..♣6
MolvaM: kuzeyin eli ile 2 kˆ¶r e kontr atar mˆ‰
ydˆ‰k
MolvaM: gˆ…neyin eli ile kˆ¶r ˆ§ˆ‰kar mˆ‰ydˆ
‰k?
ovncylmz: 1nt acisindan sonra 6oynamak cok zor
tabi
ovncylmz: bu eli upgrade edip 1d-1h-2nt diyenler
cikar mi acaba?
vugraphzpv: 5
ii mi koray
ergur: artˆ‰kdeˆ il
relrikas: evet haldun abi 5 e 5♠ demedi
alichengiz: 3nt ˆ anslˆ‰ydˆ‰
relrikas: 5 sayˆ‰ aldˆ‰k
alichengiz: +1 ˆ§izgisinde gidiyor
vugraphzpv : masada bir kahkaha oldu 8li
kazanˆ‰nca
vugraphzpv: :)
begse: pikle kˆ‰saltarak 4 cˆ… kozu alˆ‰yor
ancak
alichengiz : KG ˆ§ift Odd Even discarding (
Romen Defos) oynuyor olmalˆ‰, ♣ 10 ile ♠
istiyor Tuˆ bars
alichengiz: ˆ§ok fazla koz varken genelde yˆ‰
pratma dfansˆ‰ yapˆ‰lˆ‰rsada, kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…kse
kozlarˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ§akaya ˆ§ˆ‰kabiliriz, oyun
sonunda yatmamak iˆ§in, kˆ‰salˆ‰rˆ‰z ˆ§
akarak
MolvaM: evet. baˆ arˆ‰lˆ‰ atak..♣3
MolvaM: ilginˆ§ bir ˆ ekilde bu kuvvetli ellerde
zon yok gibi
MolvaM: 5 trefl daha iyi ama o da batacak
tez: 5!as sayisinda anlasmazlik oldu
relrikas: gerˆ§i ben de demezdim 5♠
MolvaM: trefl atak edilir tabi ki :)
alichengiz: ˆ¶yle gˆ¶rˆ…nˆ…yor
tez: dam bulamadim 6 diyorum..bulsaydim ˆ eˆ
diyecektim:)..♣K
MolvaM: kˆ¶r ataˆ ˆ‰na tabii
MolvaM: kontrolu kaybeder ise 3 de batabilir
alichengiz: sizlerde de var, BBO alt barˆ‰nda
GIB kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ iˆ aret, ona tˆ‰klayˆ‰n, el
analizlerini gˆ¶sterine tˆ‰klayˆ‰n..♣Q
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alichengiz: konturlu -3 500
tez: hic bi sampiyonluk rahat kazanilmaz murat:)
..♣A
murat: 7♠ Hatice’yi zorlayacak
murat: peki sensei :)
relrikas: rakip 6 derse sigorta yapmak zorunda
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hissettigim icin 6♠ diyecegim ..♣7
hobakan: karo pasˆ‰ da geˆ§iyor, pik ekspasˆ‰
da
MolvaM: hakemlikten anlayanlara soralˆ‰m
MolvaM: sizce bu elde hakem ne karar vermeli
alichengiz : ˆ imdi ♣ oynanmazsa +1 yapˆ‰
labilr
MolvaM: ki ˆ u anda gidiˆ at ˆ¶yle
alichengiz: ˆ imdi 3 ˆ§izgisinde
MolvaM: hakan karo apeli verdi sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
alichengiz : Son devreye girerken durum: 1Kolbastˆ‰ 273; 2-Pekˆ en 255; 3-Matrix 253; 4Senyˆ¶rler 251; 5-Noname 251; 6-Yˆ‰lankˆ‰
ran 246; 7-Midyat 240; 8-Zabunoˆ lu 218
fahir: masada Zafer deklaran olamamaktan ˆ
ikayetˆ§i:) habire kontratˆ‰ kaptˆ‰rˆ‰yor:)..
A
alichengiz: 3nt +1 430
MolvaM: kenan. bayan finalinde son durum ne idi?
MolvaM: kˆ¶r 3lˆ… ataˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ soruyor seyirciler..
K
MolvaM: sorunsuz bir kontrat
MolvaM: gˆ…neyde ♠10 olsa idi ilginˆ§ 1 defans
olacaktˆ‰ bu
fahir: hersene programda dˆ…zeltme yapsak da,
son gˆ…n nedense bilgisayarlarda copy-paste yap
ˆ‰lˆ‰p tekrar yanlˆ‰ˆ olarak karˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰za
geliyor
MolvaM: bu durumda kuzey gˆ…ney attitude atak
oynuyorlar diye bir varsayˆ‰mda bulunabilirim..
Q
MolvaM: belki yalˆ§ˆ‰n bize bilgi verir?
MolvaM : yani elinizde atak ettiginiz renk ne
kadar iyi ise o kadar kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k marka ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰
yorsunuz
alichengiz: defans 2♣ ve karo asˆ‰nˆ‰ alabiliyor,
karo oynandˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nda J konursa tabi ki
MolvaM: ˆ§ˆ…nkˆ… bu masada da 4 kˆ¶r 2 batmˆ
‰ˆ olmalˆ‰ydˆ‰
alichengiz: 14 ellik maˆ§larda, aradaki farkˆ‰n
3,5’ˆ a bˆ¶lerseniz VP sonucunu bulursunuz
MolvaM: son devreye girilirken?
relrikas: 12 sayˆ‰ geldi ˆ§ift pasa oynadi levent
abim 4 ˆ….. 3
MolvaM: 2♣ alert edilmedi diye 1 yaptˆ‰rˆ‰m
uygulanabilir mi KG ˆ§iftine.. 4
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MolvaM: ama ♠10luyu yerde gˆ¶rˆ…yoruz.. 6
alichengiz: =
hobakan: Baˆ kanˆ‰n oynayacaˆ ˆ‰ 3 Sp dbl 5
batacaktˆ‰.
alichengiz: 3♠ konturlu iyiydi ve fakat Osman ˆ
zcan, ˆ igan ile tutmadˆ‰
hobakan: yani 1100
tez:
alip koz oynayinca.. J
MolvaM: kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k marlayˆ‰ gˆ¶ren ortaˆ ˆ‰nˆ
‰z elinde kˆ¶r rua-vale gˆ¶rˆ…nce mutlu oluyor
fahir: yarˆ‰n 8 takˆ‰m Danish usulˆ… karˆ ˆ‰
laˆ acaklar.. 5
MolvaM: cengo?
alichengiz: psiˆ ik free bu maˆ§larda
alichengiz: yeter ki ortakla anlaˆ malˆ‰ olmasˆ
‰n
MolvaM: ama burada psiˆ ik yok
MolvaM: alert edilmeyen 1 konvansiyon var
arigun: sola mac sonuna kadar diger boardlarda
dahil ♣ atagi yasaklanir, sag tarafin agzina japon
yapistirici surulmek suretiyle mac selametle
sonuclanir
MolvaM: gerˆ§i bu devirde herkesin oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ
‰ bir konvansiyon ama konumuz o deˆ il
alichengiz: maˆ§ 24-6 Pekˆ en lehine bitmez ise
veya 25-5 ve ˆ¶tesi, Kolbastˆ‰ Takˆ‰mˆ‰2009
Tˆ…rkiye Aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlar ˆ ampiyonu
tez: ˆ§ok mantˆ‰klˆ‰ kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k ♠..♠J
tez: ortakta as yaa vale varsa super
alichengiz: el aˆ§ar
alichengiz: internette pek el aˆ§ˆ‰lmˆ‰yor,
canlˆ‰ briˆ§te el belli olduˆ unda, oyuncular
genellikle el aˆ§ar
vugraphzpv: mola verildi
vugraphzpv: Ali Saˆ lam hoˆ geldin
tez: bu oyun oynanirken oyuncularin hepsi 3 nt
oluyormuydu diyede hesap yapiyor..♠5
alichengiz: thanks for link Roland :)
hobakan: bu da 790 oldu
tez: yada
..♠3
tez:
dam oynarsa 3 batiyor
relrikas: 800 yerine 680 iyidir yada 650 mantigiyla
bende 5 e pas derdim icerde 5♠ de kalinca 5
imp den oluyoruz tabi haldun abiyle birlikte
alichengiz: checkback deˆ ilde walsh oynuyor
olabilirler, aˆ§an dengeli ellerle 1♠ demiyorsa 1
ˆ…zerine, 2♣ pik soruyordur..♠Q
MolvaM : vugrafta bir sonraki maˆ§ Senyˆ¶rJunior maˆ§ˆ‰. ilginˆ§ bir maˆ§.. 8
tez: yaa=yada
MolvaM: bizden ayrˆ‰lmayˆ‰n
alichengiz: eˆ it oldu diˆ er masada
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tez: kuzeyin eliyle konusmak icin sebep goremiyorum..
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vugraphzpv: mola verildi
alichengiz: http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/ sonuˆ§lar
ve butler iˆ§in
alichengiz: sigara iˆ§mek yasak olduˆ una gˆ¶re,
lavabo molasˆ‰dˆ‰r
alichengiz: turnuvanˆ‰n dˆ…zenlendiˆ i mekanˆ
‰n iˆ§inde sigara iˆ§mek yasak, aksi durumda
her sigara 1VP
alichengiz: isteyen iˆ§sin
vugraphzpv: turnuvada tamamiyle sigara iˆ§mek
yasaktˆ‰r
alichengiz : aˆ§ˆ‰k takˆ‰mlardaki turnuva
formatˆ‰ ile kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zˆ‰n formatˆ‰
deˆ iˆ ik
alichengiz: kadˆ‰nlar, 2 grup halinde eleme
oynuyor
alichengiz : dˆ¶rder takˆ‰m final grubuna
kalacak
ogoksel: ˆ yi denmiˆ bir ˆ lem.. 3
MolvaM: hmm bu olmadˆ‰
alichengiz: Kenan kadˆ‰nlarˆ‰mˆ‰zdan haber
istiyoruz ˆ¶bˆ…r devre, ˆ ampiyon belli olacaksan
ˆ‰yorum
arigun: 3♣ -2 boardunu murat sonuncuda dbl ile
uynadirmis bravo.. 2
MolvaM: neyseki gene de batacak.. A
MolvaM : elde fazladan bir as bulundurmakta
yarar var her zaman
MolvaM: yoksa boˆ lamayˆ‰ mˆ‰ dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…
yor?
MolvaM: deklarasyonu hatˆ‰rla nur
tez: yoksa zaten farketmez
Under26 arasˆ‰nda 15 35 de baˆ layacak
MolvaM: seyircilerden uyarˆ‰ geldi. kuzeydeki
oyuncunun adˆ‰ ercan deˆ il erol diyorlar
alichengiz: pik ˆ§ekseydi 3 batˆ‰yordu
alichengiz: ˆ imdi 2
ovncylmz: 5kor dogru bence.. J
tez: 2 seviyesinde minorle araya girmek takim
maclarinda tehlikeli.. 4
MolvaM: eˆ er ˆ¶yle ise kenan’dan dˆ…zeltmesini
rica edelim
tez: cunku kontra rahatca birakabilir rakip.. 9
tez: super defans yaptilar
vugraphzpv: mola verildi..♠T
vugraphzpv: evet bi yanlˆ‰ˆ lˆ‰k olmuˆ ˆ¶zˆ…
r herkesten..♠6..♠8
vugraphzpv: dˆ…zelttim hemen
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alichengiz: 5
¨’da da bir sorun yok ve fakat
gelinemedi
gravity: Arigun karo atagindan sonra pik pasi
atarak 9 lˆ¶ve icin %100 e oynadi...♠A
alichengiz: 22 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k farka bakarak, bunun
zor olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ‰ sˆ¶yleyebiliriz, Kupa ˆ u
an Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n elinde %99
alichengiz: pikle ˆ§ˆ‰kar veya Q kozla.. 2
alichengiz: 7 li koz 500 yine
alichengiz: si:)
MolvaM: 5 karo oluyordu nasˆ‰l olsa demesi
kolay ama deklare edilebilecek miydi?
alichengiz: sizin tazˆ‰nˆ‰zˆ‰ yapˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰rˆ‰
p duruyorum
alichengiz: yazˆ‰nˆ‰zˆ‰
vugraphzpv: Likom 115 Ege 48 son tura girerken
ki durum (bayanlar final maˆ§ˆ‰nˆ‰n)
murat: tez? :).. 7
alichengiz: lavabo molasˆ‰?
MolvaM: teˆ ekkˆ…rler.. T
MolvaM: biliyorsunuz senyˆ¶rler takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ
‰z avrupa ˆ ampiyonu ˆ…nvanˆ‰na sahip.. 6
MolvaM: saatler ilerledikˆ§e antalya maˆ durlarˆ
‰ yavaˆ yavaˆ yorumcu olarak bize katˆ‰
lmaya baˆ layacaklardˆ‰r eminim.. K
MolvaM: o bir dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonu :) tebrikler
tez: cakti zannettim..♣9.. 5
tez: simdi
ruayla ciksaydi 2 batacakti.. T
MolvaM: genˆ§lerde ise dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonu ˆ…
nvanlˆ‰ sporcularˆ‰mˆ‰z o labilir
alichengiz: ve 3 batˆ‰rmayˆ‰da becermiˆ ler, b
ˆ¶ylelikle 12 sayˆ‰lˆ‰k swing oluˆ muˆ ..♠K
MolvaM: bildiˆ im kadarˆ‰ ile kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰
mˆ‰ 4 kiˆ iden ibaret
vugraphzpv: yatˆ‰yorsun diye claim yaptˆ‰..♠
7
relrikas: bu maˆ§a girilirken ki durum iˆ§in
alichengiz: -2
MolvaM: bakˆ‰nˆ‰z cengiz arˆ‰gˆ…n bizi ˆ
ereflendirdi iˆ te :)
relrikas: http://clubs.vugraph.com/tbricfed/teams
_round.php?round=1502
arigun: K magduru :)
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3
c 2
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this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
3
155
Geologi Timah
109
N
-3
150
N
-1
50
8
3
♠ K J10 4 2
6
AK Q7 6
8
7
K
3
♣7 3
♠A Q
N ♠9 7 6 5
10 9 8
J3
W E
A42
Q J10
S
♣A 8 6 4 2
♣ K J10 9
♠83
8
4-7
542
4-5
987653
6
♣Q5
10
130
W: Julius A G
W
1N
p
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
2
p
p
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¨Q,3,A,K
§9,Q,A,7
©K,J,4,9
ª9,3,A,2
©6,¨J,5,§2
#1 E::
#3 E::
#5 N::
#7 E::
#9 N::
§4,3,K,5
©8,A,3,2
©Q,¨T,©5,T
ªQ,K,5,8
#2 W::
#4 W::
#6 N::
#8 W::
mariner1: DBL’ing EW is not working out
keylime : nice to go back to teammates and
announced two doubled partials into game, and
two slams
mariner1: I mean NS for EW
Walddk4: Your commentators are Shirley Ubarra,
Mike Graham, Cornelia Yoder and Panja
Walddk4: Ybarra
panja: hi all
mdgraham : Good evening all. Champions
League: Chelsea 4 Liverpool 4
sybarra: might have shared boards or played out
of order
sybarra: this is last hand of this set, right Isabel?
ady: slam in hearts here
roswolf: the last board coming up
vugraphzpe: players take a small brake...
mollerjep: you have a good point there
vugraphzpe: we’re back
mollerjep: and for you Mathias...You have done
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lestergold: part score hand
asig: better than my analysis
vugraphzpe: thank you..1N
ady : part score again n/s might contest in
spades
pentacon: The other 3NT made, so its a square
again !
ziff: 6♣ here
christinas: 6 clubs is a beautiful contract here
bjacobs : Someone should run from 1NT?
Maybe West?..2 !
sybarra: hello all
chick: Hello Everyone
jbgood: long time since i was there Shirl...
asig : But I think some opposing bidding is
coming up
Walddk2: This is an 11 count I would not open,
but it’s their style apparently..p
lestergold: 2s looks mte n/s spot here
panja: we begin with a 50% slam for EW..p
Portugal. Job well done Isabel!
ianrei: they open all bal 11 counts..p
bcallaghan: I wouldn’t open it either.
chick: 50% in clubs. in hearts, need a split of
hearts as well
hedyg: 12.14 NT
viren169: Could be trouble here
lestergold: e/w will have to let this go
idc: Anne has already mentioned the NS overcalling
style.. Q
idc: I’d call it ’loose’ - not agressive but loose
keylime: EW also using precision is appears
Teams). After 1st Round I will indicate the link to
results.
bobholl: 3 ♣ fit short ♣ now ?
keylime: which is practically standard in China..
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bjacobs: Good man
sybarra: the other room starts on the with 7 and
8 ... so we start first ... and you can see comparisons
on open table
mariner1: 3N works EW.. A
sybarra: better be in a suit here I think
panja: supposedly natural 1♣ opening, but W
does not know the big Club fit..so he goes through
3♠..
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calabres : As Board Member of Portuguese
Bridge Federation I want to thank BBO and
Roland Wald for the schedule of these broadcasts
on Vugraph. My special thanks to all commentators
on Open ...
calabres: and Closed Rooms.
mdgraham: I suspect this EW pair play 1♣ as
natural
panja: it is only deemed natural....3 cards should
not really be termed natural...
mdgraham: this is not the best spot
calabres: Among other reasons, but mainly to the
worldwide crises, bridge was affected too, so we
will have only 21 teams, and some of them made
by people who started to play bridge short ...
calabres: time ago, we all must be grateful to
them in name of their love to Bridge. Ty to all
players.
panja: 13/4 is 3.25, so anytime you have 3 or less
cards, you have less than expectation value ...so
unnatural
sybarra: not bad on a ♠ lead which now unlikely
panja : South is unlikely to lead a
against
3Nt...note that N did not dbl 3♠...so North does
not rate to have ♠ honour...
panja: rather unlikely to lead a ♠
ady: notice they dont promise 4 hearts with the
double
lestergold : this lead will make life easy for
declarer
lestergold: the conly challenging lead was never
happening
lestergold: a trump!
asig: Now S is unstoppable
drg: should be able to get there now
mollerjep: This is the famous Ron-spirit :-).. K
hedyg: XX=♣?
viren169: N has come in too early
viren169: probably single suiter with ♣s
vugraphzpe : xx is usually any one-suiter in
denmark
ady: yes trump certainly best
ianrei: west hands not ideal for the reasonable 5C
bid..♣4
Walddk2: Worst possible I would say
panja: rather odd that after a suit is mentioned, 55
fit in that suit is not ’FOUND’
Joe, Geoffrey, and Jon. Always an interesting
discussion and insights. (all of whom not going
to track)
galadriel: 5 on A lead.....♣3
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ianrei: better played by E - may get the HA lead
bcallaghan: Should go down. 3NT had more
play. Hard to guess.
henrik_r: Not surprisingly I think 4D is quite
OK ;-)
henrik_r: 3D simply doesn’t put enough pressure
on the opps
hedyg: ok ty
ady: diamond back best
Jack, Panja, David, Martin and Bob. Always an
interesting discussion and insights. ..♣K
hedyg: our Matias is worth gold!
christinas: NS double weak NT as soon as they
have a good 13-count, so I think North didn’t
expect to be able to beat 2spades and so bid right
away
christinas: here it looks rather silly
joest: i see. didn’t think we were only playing 8
boards. sorry..♣5
Federation and Luis Correia and Rosaline for
bringing this wonderful tourney to bbo.
mollerjep: not everybodys choise but I like it too :-)
santyclz: xx can be too many things to try to
guess. ♣s, 2-suiter, minors, etc.
keylime: and six clubs somehow comes home might be too good for a Roland slam here..♣9
ady: thx all
mariner1: yes 6♣ would make... how to bid?..♣
Q
keylime: it’s a push and shove kind of slam
keylime: I know in my normal p’ship, we probably
bail at five clubs
panja: thx all
hedyg: so it asks pd to bid ♣ and you correct to
your suit
bjacobs: 3NT is a fair contract, despite the lack
of points, because West is placed with all the
cards..♣A..♣7
sybarra: And to our specs,-- greatest audience in
the world. We appreciate you comments and
thoughts
Federation and Luis Correia and Rosaline for
bringing this wonderful tourney to bbo.
Walddk2: shrug, down 1.. 8.. A
ianrei: risky D play - what if partner has Qxx
Walddk2: Well, the queen is in the dummy
lestergold: this will wo0rk just as well because
declareer wont get position of trump ace wrong
mariner1 : well even if he makes it he losed
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mariner1: loses
bjacobs: Mind you, it needs
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and it does
chick: I’m very surprised at the 3♠ bid. seems
reasonable enough to bid 3 .
bjacobs: Is West thinking of cracking this?.. 2
keylime: B2: CR - EW played 1NT after North
overcalled 1H... K
mariner1: not sure I get past 3N either
bjacobs: Good thing he didn’t
keylime: I know with me after I hear spades, my
hand downgrades a bit.. J
panja: all because of wrong terminology...because
1♣ is designated as natural.....
ady: needs the K
set up before the heart ruff
lestergold: better cashh clubs or wont make em
both
sybarra: wonder if 3
is forcing to them .. 4
ziff: +1
thoughts H!.. 9
santyclz : Nope, guess I’ll be back for next
session. Thanks to you too, Shirley.
ianrei: ah yes - I forgot declarer had the short C !
.. Q
sybarra: we are back shortly
jbgood: bye all
roswolf: thanks all see you soon
sybarra: about 15-20 min, we are back
vugraphzmh: pls don’t leave your seats ... we
will be back in 15 min time ...
... right
back
mdgraham : I have a Waterlow-Hackect CC
which states that 1x=4+cards. Don’t know if this
pair does the same .. T.. 5.. T
chick: he’s already a passed hand, so partner isn’t
going to go nuts..♠9
lestergold: best defence can do now..♠3
hedyg: i guess he was planning to bid ♣ next
round..♠A
lestergold: held it to 2 at least..♠2..♠Q..♠K..♠
5..♠8.. 6.. J
ady: if a heart is ruffed before Q played would
go down
lestergold: yes
lestergold: but he knew he had to do taht
chick: but he got lucky with the lead, so will
make overtricks when the other suits break
nicely.. 5
panja: he would have made just nine if North had
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mariner1: there is reason to play Q there and not
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 4♠
9
9
this/total IMPs
Geologi Timah
109
Mitra Buana
2
157
W 6
690
W 4
620
1
♠K 8 5 4
2
9764
1
1
964
4
♣Q J
♠J963
N ♠A72
Q10 8
AK J
W E
A2
KQ875 3
S
♣AK 9 2
♣6
♠ Q10
12
11
532
11
J10
12
♣10 8 7 5 4 3
9
1440
W: D Sacul
W
1♠
3N
N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
N
E
p
1
p
3
p
p
§Q,6,8,A
¨2,6,K,J
¨8,§4,ª3,8
¨5,©2,ª9,©6
©K,5,T,9
#1 N::
#3 W::
#5 E::
#7 E::
#9 E::
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E: T Asby
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p
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Ä,4,3,T
¨Q,§3,2,¨9
¨7,§5,ª6,©4
©A,3,8,7
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#2 W::
#4 E::
#6 E::
#8 E::
#10 E::
MolvaM: aslˆ‰nda 2 batacaktˆ‰. ama 50 puanˆ
‰ nelere vermiyoruz ki
ovncylmz: 5c pass forsing degildir bu arada
vugraphzpv: irfan pass forsing olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰nˆ
‰ sˆ¶ylˆ…yor
vugraphzpv: kendi insiyatif almˆ‰ˆ
ovncylmz: :)
kabexnuf: olmamsi lazim zaten
vugraphzpv: bˆ¶yle bakˆ‰lˆ‰rsa 5 ii deˆ il
bence
vugraphzpv: ona rahmen 5 ii mi diyorsun ˆ¶vˆ
…nˆ§
ergur: 2 bort 1sp ye dbl dendiˆ i iˆ§in 4h bulamam
ˆ‰ˆ lar 5cl -1 olmuˆ 2h dese muhtemelen egale
olurdu
relrikas: gˆ…zel claim :)
tez: kubac 3nt dedigi icin ♣ partajina oynamaktansa
♠ empasina oynayayim dedi
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relrikas: tabi loveler alˆ‰nmayˆ‰nca aynˆ‰
oyun burda swing getirdi
alichengiz: smith echo iˆ§in Roland Waldk link
verdi, anlaˆ maˆ a baˆ lˆ‰dˆ‰r, UDCA oynayanlar
kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k verirler beˆ endim demek iˆ§in,
Standart cardinciler genelde bˆ…yˆ…k
relrikas: pik3-3 33 civari yuksek yuzdeli oyun
batiyor bu el iˆ§in
alichengiz: Carding
alichengiz: buradan ˆ§ˆ‰kan 8 takˆ‰m yine 2
ye bˆ¶lˆ…nˆ…p oynayacaklar gruplarˆ‰nda 1.
olanlar final 2. olan 3-4 oynayacak
tez: vugrafta oynamanin dayanilmaz hafifligi
vugraphzpv: mehmet barˆ‰ˆ kˆ‰zdˆ‰ biraz
alichengiz: biraz mˆ‰? :)
alichengiz: ew 4
alichengiz: ne aˆ§acak acaba Nafiz
relrikas: murat 1♣ acar tahminimce
alichengiz: ew 4
alichengiz: karo ataˆ ˆ‰ kritik yine
vugraphzpv: B gurubunun son durumu ise
vugraphzpv: Antalya BK1.(199)
alichengiz: part skor yarˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
vugraphzpv: No name1 2.(197)
vugraphzpv: ˆ imentaˆ 3. (195)
alichengiz: kimsede 8 kart koz yok
hobakan: ara mˆ‰?
vugraphzpv: Yˆ‰lankˆ‰ran4.(192)
vugraphzpv: Kasapoglu ve Maksoy-Deniz takip
eden takˆ‰mlar
alichengiz: 1 pas 1nt 2 2 pas pas olabilir
MolvaM: pazar sabahˆ‰ndan beri 4 oyuncu da
masaa
MolvaM: masada
MolvaM: ciddi bir dayanˆ‰klˆ‰lˆ‰k gˆ¶stergesi
hem fiziksel hem kafasal
alichengiz: ˆ ampiyona ile ilgili bilgiler http://
www.tbricfed.org.tr/
MolvaM: tebrik etmek gerek kendilerini
arigun: bu arada diger masada line-up yanlis faik
abi su an yanimda (bilmedigimiz bir ikizi yoktur
heralde9 orhan ekinci oynuyor
vugraphzpv: yok muhabbet oldu
alichengiz: maˆ§ otasˆ‰nda adettir de :)
vugraphzpv: aralarˆ‰nda konuˆ uyorlar sadece
MolvaM: sonuˆ§ olarak toplam 20 onˆ¶r puanˆ‰
var
tez: o elle 2♣ denmez demedim..yanlis anlasilmasin..p
murat: Bence Mersin iˆ§in bir iˆ kazasˆ‰ daha
oldu.
MolvaM: bˆ…tˆ…n keycardlar tamamken grandˆ
leme uˆ§up batma riski yˆ…ksek olabilir.
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tez: 7♣ rahat oluyor..1
tez: 2 nt acisindan sonra minor gelisimlerini iyi
yor
anlasmak gerekiyor
murat: 1 aˆ§sa ˆ§ok rahat gelirlerdi.. ˆ imdi
ortaklˆ‰k anlaˆ malarˆ‰na baˆ lˆ‰
tez: ben ortagimla nasil oynadigimi yazayim..isteyen
izleyici not alsin
tez: 2nt 3♠=3 nt ye transfer..ortak 3 nt demek
zorunda
tez: 3nt ye 4♣=♣ ten slem daveti+
tez: 4 = slem daveti+
tez: 4 =5li ♣ 4lu
slem daveti+
tez: 4♠= dan slem daveti+
tez: 4nt=5/5 minor
pala: .
tez: 4♠=5li 4lu ♣ slem daveti+ olacakti ozur
murat: devamˆ‰nda bu elle ne diyorsun Tez ?
vugraphzpv: gˆ…ney oyuncusu dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…
yor
tez: 4nt ye sanzatu acan minoru secer..cevapci bir
ustuyle keykartlari sorar
tez: bu el soyle giderdi yani
murat: 1
murat: :)
tez: 2nt 3♠ 3nt 4nt 5♣ 5 5♠ 7♣
tez: eger 2 nt actiysak
tez: ben 1 acardim
tez: izleyicilere tek tek yazamam ozur..yazmayin
lutfen
MolvaM: bu maˆ§taki ilk ˆ lem elimiz
tez: rakip zonda kendileri beyaz diye bu 14 ile
sanzatu acmayi tercih etti
tez: as sayisini bile karistiriyor insan:)
alichengiz: 6 evet
alichengiz: 1 konturlu oynatˆ‰lmasˆ‰ kˆ¶tˆ
… deˆ il
hobakan: 14-16 olabilir.
alichengiz: keˆ ke, Konvensiyon katlarˆ‰da (
ortaklˆ‰k anlaˆ ma kartˆ‰) olsa da sitede,
yorumcular faydalansa
alichengiz: 4
e gelebilirler, karo ˆ§akasˆ‰
bulunursa batacak..p
alichengiz: 1♣ 1 2nt all pas?
relrikas: X
alichengiz: 21 de ki maˆ§ta, 4. maˆ§larˆ‰nda
oynamayan oyuncular burada olacaktˆ‰r, yorumcu
bol olur :)
alichengiz: Merhaba Ali Bey
carleone22: selam
alichengiz: bir yerde atlamasalar kazanˆ§lˆ‰
olacaklardˆ‰, ˆ imdi 3 sayˆ‰ verdiler
alichengiz: karo ˆ§ˆ‰kˆ‰lmazsa hiˆ§ batmˆ‰
♠ ˆ…zerine atˆ‰lˆ‰r
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alichengiz: ♠ ler saˆ lanˆ‰r ve k
¨ kaˆ‰plarˆ‰
ovncylmz: board 22 skorunu goremiyorum ben
su anda..1♠
gravity: 5h e 5pik bordu
relrikas: bu maˆ§lar sonunda bugun noktalanˆ‰
rken A grubundan 16 takˆ‰m puanlarˆ‰nˆ‰
koruyarak yarˆ‰n aynˆ‰ gruptan devam edecekler
B grubundan ise 4 takˆ‰m ˆ§ˆ‰kacak
alichengiz: oo
alichengiz: da bulmak zor
relrikas: pas 1
alichengiz: nt aˆ§ˆ‰nca kritik 5i renkle davt
gelecektir
MolvaM: ˆ leme gitmek iˆ§in iyi bir el deˆ il ˆ§ˆ…
nkˆ… pikler 2-2 daˆ ˆ‰lmamˆ‰ˆ ..p
MolvaM: likom takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰ tebrik ediyoruz.
alichengiz: o zaman, Bayanlarda, Belis Atalay,
Mey Zaim, Hatice ˆ zgˆ…r, Eren ˆ zan (ˆ Stanbullular)
ˆ pekSaˆ tekin, Filiz Uygan’dan oluˆ an Lˆ kom
Takˆ‰ˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ ampiyon ilan etmeˆ e yakˆ‰nˆ
‰z
tez: diger odadaki konusma saniyorum yanlis
girildi..3
MolvaM: 4 kˆ¶r batˆ‰rmasˆ‰ zor bir kontrat gibi
MolvaM: 6 ve 6NT olasˆ‰
MolvaM: tabi ki 6karo daha iyi kontrat
relrikas: ve en alttaki 4 takim 13-16 puanlarini 14 seklinde kopyalayip yeni gune baslayacaklar
gravity: bu bordun diferansi cok fazla olabilir
eger 4pike kalˆ‰rsa
alichengiz: anlaˆ ˆ‰lan Support Double oynamˆ
‰yorlar, aksi halde 3 tane
le rdbl demesi
gerekirdir
hobakan: 15-17 imiˆ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
vulkan: :)
alichengiz: son 2 oyuncu Ankara’lˆ‰
MolvaM: ama 4 kˆ¶re ulaˆ masˆ‰ da zor..p
MolvaM: olamaz
MolvaM: bakalˆ‰m soner ve ercan ˆ‰n frenler
saˆ lam mˆ‰
fahir: Kursat Ozsahin de aramˆ‰zda yorumlara
yardˆ‰mcˆ‰ olacak
ergur: 3nt uygun kontrat
tez: baraj amacli 1 nt acisi:)
relrikas: birde atak eden ile ortagi farkli sekilde
verenler var ki karisikliga en cok yol acabilecek
olandˆ‰r; tercih etmiyorum smith echo icin ya
hep buyuk ya hep kucuk
hobakan: Trfel Rua
ogoksel: hmmm.3NT 4-4 M mˆ… demekti acaba?
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tez: naturel sekans soyle olabilirdi
MolvaM: neyse :)
alichengiz: :)
ergur: 3nt ˆ imdi
alichengiz: 5 li kˆ¶tˆ… kˆ¶rle nt aˆ§mayˆ‰ yeˆ
ledi
arigun: ilave ♣ durumunda da biraz sorun var
pasam
tez: 3nt 44 major demekmis fakat kuzey anlamamis
yada 3nt yi tercih etmis..p
tez: takim arkadasi bu bilgiyi veriyor
gravity: atakci dbl attigi icin rdbl dˆ…sˆ…nˆ…
yor olabilir
alichengiz: 6?
alichengiz: hangi 6
hobakan : 2 pik : naturelde 2 NT diyecek el
oynuyorlar.
Under26 arasˆ‰nda 15 35 de baˆ layacak..p
MolvaM: artˆ‰k sˆ‰ra geldi favori konvansiyonumuza
tez: ♠ atagini birakacak
alichengiz: rakibin kafasˆ‰nˆ‰ karˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰
rmak iˆ§in tek borlarda ben bˆ…yˆ…k vereyim
sen kˆ…ˆ§ˆ…k, ˆ§ift bordlarda tersi dersin,
stresle teki ˆ§ifti karˆ‰tˆ‰rˆ‰p papaz olursun
hobakan: ile pik rua arasˆ‰nda
MolvaM: orasˆ‰nˆ‰ deklaranˆ‰ doˆ u yaparak
halledebilirdik
alichengiz: her ˆ eyin kˆ¶tˆ… olduˆ u bir gˆ…n
MolvaM: oyunun nasˆ‰l yapˆ‰lacaˆ ˆ‰ deklaran
aˆ§ˆ‰sˆ‰ndan ˆ§ok net belli deˆ il ˆ u an
MolvaM: ercan bˆ…tˆ…n 17leri 18 olarak mˆ…
talaa ediyor gibi :)..p
vugraphzpv: _
gravity: diger taraftan dbl gelse rdbl diyemezdi,
cakalarla batirirlardi korkusundan.
relrikas: -650 ye karsi -200 10 imp daha yˆ‰lank
ˆ‰ran ankara diyordum tam bi anda -400 6imp
ye donuyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
relrikas: 2 burda 6li kor orta el
pikonlu: 5 korun kontursuz oynanma sansˆ‰ yok :)
relrikas : bu tip deklereye yakˆ‰n olmayan
seyircilerimiz iˆ§in
relrikas: bu masada oyle
relrikas: iˆ§erdede oyle olur sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
alichengiz: 6 ’da ♠ kayˆ‰plarˆ‰ kˆ¶re kaˆ§ˆ
‰lˆ‰yo, ˆ§aka ile 5 koz 5 1♣ ve ♠
hobakan: yazacaktˆ‰m
hobakan: neyse ben herkese teˆ ekkˆ…r edeyim.
akˆ ama gˆ¶rˆ…ˆ ˆ…rˆ…z
alichengiz: diˆ er masada da yapˆ‰ldˆ‰ 4
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alichengiz: defans zor iˆ
vugraphzpv: teˆ ekkˆ…rler ˆ zgˆ…r BAKAN
alichengiz: teˆ ekkˆ…rler ˆ¶zgˆ…r :)
hobakan: ben teˆ ekkˆ…r ederim. burdayˆ‰m bi
yere gitmiyorum daha
hobakan: ama yetiˆ emiyorum kusuruma bakmay
ˆ‰n:)
MolvaM: ˆ u an masadaki oyuncular en son 1972
de konvansiyon kartˆ‰ hazˆ‰rlamˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰r
muhtemelen
MolvaM: mˆ…nih olimpiyatlarˆ‰ vesilesi ile
alichengiz : Tˆ…rkiye ikili iˆ§in acele edin
seyirci arkadaˆ lar, hala zaman var, yarˆ‰n ˆ¶ˆ
leyin baˆ lˆ‰yor, haydi Antalya’ya
alichengiz: bir tek ’ler iyi
alichengiz: -2 mˆ…mkˆ…n
tez: ben kaciyorum..benim kizlar mactan cikmak
uzere..♣Q
tez: 1 2 3♣ 4♣ 4 4 4nt 5 5nt 7♣..
MolvaM: bu arada doˆ u-batˆ‰ gˆ…zel bir
partskorunu kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰
tez:
empas yapacak
alichengiz: daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰m kˆ¶tˆ…, trefler ve kˆ¶
rler bozuk
hobakan: Baˆ kan da sen 2 Nt desen ben pass
diyecektim anlamˆ‰nda 2 NT dedi
alichengiz: 2nt yˆ…ksek ihale
alichengiz: Hemˆ ehrilerim, Gˆ…l Tercan, Serap
Carfi, Dilek Kundakˆ§ˆ‰, Nihal Matracˆ‰, (Gˆ
…zel ˆ zmir) Dilek Yavaˆ (Bursa) Mine Babaˆ§ (
istanbul)
MolvaM: hmm bunu beˆ enmedim..♣6
alichengiz: tek ˆ§ift verenlerde varmˆ‰ˆ
alichengiz: hayyatta her ˆ ey mˆ…mkˆ…n, yeter
ki ne dediˆ imizi ortaˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z anlasˆ‰n
alichengiz: 3 nt karo ˆ§ˆ‰klmasza olacaktˆ‰,
Vera tarafˆ‰ndan karo ˆ§ˆ‰kmak imkansˆ‰z
gibi
ergur: alla yardˆ‰mcˆ‰larˆ‰olsun
alichengiz: kartlarˆ‰n lokasyonu izin vermez
MolvaM: grandˆ lem kaˆ§ˆ‰rma ihtimali var..♣8
gravity: bence bu borddan ne cikicagi belli olmaz,
6pik dbl lˆ‰ da gelebilir
ergur: h:)
tez: keykart sormanˆ‰n ne zarari var..belkide 7
oynarˆ‰z..♣A
MolvaM: ama neyseki bu elde sorun yok
vugraphzpv: doˆ u batˆ‰ 2 zayˆ‰f bir majˆ¶r
yada 18 19 dengeli el(5li majˆ¶r olabilir)
MolvaM: 5nt?
vugraphzpv: oynuyorlar
pikonlu: :)
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gravity: :)
alichengiz: 3
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karo pasˆ‰ geˆ§mesede yapˆ‰lˆ
‰yor, piki alˆ‰p 2 tur koz ˆ§ekip kˆ¶re kayˆ‰
plarˆ‰nˆ‰ kaˆ§arken ˆ§aksada sorunyok
alichengiz: ˆ imdi ♠ Q koaybilirse ♠ e yu atˆ
‰p ˆ§akadan kurtulabilir
alichengiz: veya J iˆ te
alichengiz: Q ♣ antre pik Asˆ‰ iˆ§in
alichengiz: ama bunlarˆ‰ ne oynayan bilebilir
ne de defans
alichengiz: empas atˆ‰p batmak var
alichengiz: Dbl sonra cubid edip sonra tutmak,
destenin yarˆ‰sˆ‰ bende demek
carleone22: eymen bedir-- hakan goksu cifti 318 Ekim 2008 tarihlerinde Pekin/ˆ in’de yapˆ‰
lan dunya sampˆ‰yonasˆ‰nda brˆ‰c mˆ‰llˆ‰
takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰zda yer almˆ‰slardˆ‰
alichengiz: kˆ¶r markalarˆ‰ ve daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mˆ‰
oldukˆ§a iyi 6 uygun
alichengiz: apel sistemlerini bilmiyorum, !j ne
ister emin deˆ ilim, sekans gˆ¶steriyor olmalˆ‰,
Q yu inkar eder
alichengiz: !j
alichengiz: onlar geeˆ§en yˆ‰l olduˆ u gibi 2.
olacaklar gibi
MolvaM: 4 kadar yapabileceklerdi.. A
fahir: karo damˆ‰nˆ‰ doˆ ru tespit ederse kolay
relrikas: ilginˆ§ oldu 4♠ XX li tam korkusundan
imp vermedi ahmet abi rakibe
alichengiz: dummy reversal bile yapˆ‰labilir :)
MolvaM: haldun vahaboˆ lu 8 lˆ¶veyi gayet gˆ…
zel toplamˆ‰ˆ aˆ§ˆ‰k odada
MolvaM: 6 ?.. 4
MolvaM: 6♣? belki de
MolvaM: insanˆ‰n aklˆ‰na grandˆ lem hevesi dˆ
…ˆ meyegˆ¶rsˆ…n
MolvaM: deklare etmeden rahat edemez
relrikas: bu arada pas pas gitti :)
alichengiz: ˆ imdi daha rahat
relrikas: ♣ te dam oldugu icin ortagin ♣ puanlari
pik acigini kapatmaya yarayabilir
relrikas: tabi pik atak gelmezse
alichengiz: +1 yapˆ‰labilyor
MolvaM: acaba biz farketmeden keycard sorulmu
ˆ olabilir mi?.. 3
ovncylmz: ben demekte hic bir sakinca gormuyorum
5
alichengiz: ♠ e ne kaˆ§alˆ‰m?
alichengiz: 3
MolvaM: bu devirde kimin ne zaman keycard
sorduˆ u belli olmuyor.. T
MolvaM: netekim
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fahir: karo ataˆ ˆ‰ iˆ i kolaylaˆ tˆ‰rdˆ‰
fahir: kˆ¶r pasˆ‰ endike, pik dam da uˆ§unca
Kolbastˆ‰ takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in iyi bir skor olacak
vugraphzpv: emrah sen oyunu yaptˆ‰rdˆ‰klarˆ
‰nˆ‰ anladˆ‰ sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
gravity: bi forcing pass anlasmazligi oldu sanirim
K-G de
alichengiz: ♣ partaˆ mˆ‰?
tez: ♣ donecek ve 2 iceri.. 2
kabexnuf: nasˆ‰l 7 olacak ki 18-19 dedikten
sonra.. 6
kabexnuf: Q piki biliyor rua tref sˆ‰ˆ mˆ‰yor
fahir: pik atak gelsede 6 karo oluyor ama gitmek
zor karar
MolvaM: herhalde atak etmeyi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nmˆ…
yor.. K
MolvaM: kˆ¶r empasˆ‰ndan baˆ ka mantˆ‰klˆ‰
seˆ§enek yok
MolvaM: ama deklaran muhtemelen 8 dk sˆ…
rede oynayˆ‰p bizleri ve rakipleri bayˆ‰ltacak
tez: kucuk
donulurse
alichengiz: karo ˆ§akasˆ‰ mˆ‰ var?
alichengiz: 6 her ataˆ a oluyor
alichengiz: ˆ imdi batar artˆ‰k
alichengiz: 3nt iyiydi ve fakat..
tez: artˆ‰k 1.. J
tez: cok batabilir
alichengiz: Partaj
alichengiz: Eminim ˆ¶nˆ…mˆ…zdeki yˆ‰llarda
ˆ ampiyon olacaklardˆ‰r
MolvaM: grandˆ lem diˆ per masada da bulunamam
ˆ‰ˆ .. Q
tez: oynayan icin hicbisey uygun degil
vugraphzpv: mola verildi..♣3
murat: Herkese iyi akˆ amlar..
tez: nereye murat:)
carleone22: eymen bedir henuz 27 yasˆ‰nda
olmasˆ‰na ragmen genc yasˆ‰nda mˆ‰llˆ‰
olup uste sevˆ‰ye brˆ‰c oynayan bˆ‰r
oyuncumuz
alichengiz: konuˆ malar tamamen yapaydˆ‰,
Hakan, eymen Kuvvetli 1♣ oynuyorlar
tez: bravo molvam belkide 4 keykart sorusuydu..
♣2
tez: el tutarˆ‰nˆ‰ ˆ¶ldˆ…rdˆ…
alichengiz : ˆ imdi yapˆ‰yor karo ˆ§akasˆ‰
verilirse, ˆ…ste ˆ§akˆ‰p yapˆ‰yor
MolvaM: herhalde.. 9
ergur: ne dˆ…ˆ ˆ…ndˆ… ˆ§ekti acaba
tez:
empas yapacak ve 2 batacak bence
ergur: cl sp atagˆ‰na batardˆ‰
ovncylmz: ortakta kisa trefl var, araba cat cut
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cunku ortagi bu trefl dblini tuttu.. 8..♣4..♠3
relrikas: bˆ¶yle anlaˆ mazlˆ‰klara can kurban :)..
♠8
ergur: 2nt de battˆ‰gˆ‰ iˆ§in fazla kayˆ‰p
yok
alichengiz: ya ˆ lem kaˆ§arsa endiˆ esi
tez : yapmak yada cok batmak..kontr yoksa
yapmaya oynanmalˆ‰.. 7
fahir: elden vale karo oynamak koˆ ulu ile yine de
yapabilirdi
vbman: herkese selamlar
ergur: ama normal olan o deˆ il:)
alichengiz: 11-12 lˆ¶ve var
alichengiz: 1♣ 2♠ verirdi, 2 . ♣ yi atarken 4
kˆ¶rˆ…n ˆ…zerine ˆ§aksada sorun yoktu..♣5
tez: 3 imp icin konusmaya degmez:)
alichengiz: +2
alichengiz: ˆ u anda maˆ§ 21-9..♠6
ergur: slm hg.. 4
tez: diger masa 22 nolu eli 4♠ oynuyor..fark
acilacak.. 5
MolvaM : ˆ ˆ…kriyenin deklarasyona katˆ‰
lmamasˆ‰ rakip 3nt ye gelseydi ilginˆ§ olabilirdi
ama ˆ imdi iˆ e yaramadˆ‰.. 2
ergur: canlarˆ‰ sagolsun:)
tez: normal oynadˆ‰..♠9
alichengiz: Ege takˆ‰mˆ‰ iˆ§in nihayet iyi bir
el
alichengiz: kˆ¶rden ˆ¶nce karolar saˆ lanˆ‰yor
alichengiz: ♣ partaj olmayabilir diye karo saˆ
lamaˆ a gidiyor.. 6.. A.. 3.. 8
alichengiz: ˆ§ok haklˆ‰
alichengiz: ♠ defansta 4-4 olunca bunu yapabiliyor
♣ partajˆ‰na gereksinmeyecek
alichengiz: Dilek, el gˆ¶rmˆ…ˆ gibi oynadˆ‰,
bravo
MolvaM: herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n :).. 7
relrikas: diger masada 5pik oynanˆ‰yormus 2
iceri gider ve 10 imp unlu takˆ‰mˆ‰na gelir san
ˆ‰rˆ‰m D i bulabilirse bora er
relrikas: burda 1minor 2 medium el girince 2♠
non forcing oynaniyorsa iˆ i kolay degilse batar
sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
MolvaM: ˆ u anda bayanlar dˆ¶rtlˆ… finalinde 2.
devreler oynanˆ‰yor
vugraphzpv: yorumlar farklˆ‰ tabi.. K.. 5..
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vugraphzpv: =claim
gravity: merhabalar
alichengiz: ama hayat zor diˆ er masada yakalanm
ˆ‰ˆ lar
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vugraphzpv: Hoˆ geldin ˆ mer
MolvaM: aˆ§ˆ‰k seride ise maˆ§lar nakavt usulˆ
… olmadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ iˆ§in her devre farklˆ‰ takˆ‰
mlar eˆ leˆ ecek akˆ ama kadar
relrikas : 2pik neyle giriyorsunuz sorusuna
olabildigince esnek bi cvp gelebilir ˆ u anda... tabi
sormamis da olabilir.. 9
relrikas: martens in world of transfers kitabinda
bu sekans la ilgil gˆ…zel bi ˆ ablon var
alichengiz: ve bˆ¶ylelikle -2 ye gidiyor
alichengiz: turnuvanˆ‰n bence en bˆ…yˆ…k sˆ
…rprizi, Nafiz- Salvo ˆ§iftininde oynadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰
izmir Bˆ B takˆ‰mˆ‰nˆ‰n elenmesi oldu
vugraphzpv: mola verildi.. J
vugraphzpv: 3. mac 18:00 de ve Likom-Mersin
maci canli yayinlanacak
tez: emine bu maci kazandiktan sonra evde bana
laf ettirmez artik:)
tez: ♣ donmek imkansiz gibi bisey vahapoglu
icin
MolvaM: mine nin 3 pik deklaresi pek bilimsel
gibi gˆ¶rˆ…nmemekle birlikte gayet pratik.
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 4♠
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Mitra Buana
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Geologi Timah
109
W 6
690
W 4
620
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♠K 8 5 4
2
9764
1
1
964
4
♣Q J
♠J963
N ♠A72
Q10 8
AK J
W E
A2
KQ875 3
S
♣AK 9 2
♣6
♠ Q10
12
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532
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J10
12
♣10 8 7 5 4 3
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W: Julius A G
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Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
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#1 N:: Q,6,8,A
#3 S:: 5,2,J, 2
#5 W:: 6,5,A,Q
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#4 E:: 3,J,A,4
#6 E:: K,T,2,6
idc: I blame BBO, easy to get dummy & declarer
mixed up
mariner1: makes the up trick though
keylime: and now onto hands where we’ll have
comparisons
joest: hello Jack Oest U.S.A.
lestergold: looks like a straightforward major
suit game for n/s
lestergold: misfit hand here
lestergold: who wil ghet too high?
keylime: and, be forewarned, there’s some wild
ones coming..p
mariner1: NS in Closed sure like to bid.......1♣
garnetts: rock solid 4 here should be flat
lestergold: spades are at risk of a heart ruff or
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idc: an icon of someone queueing to buy beers
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real-life way :)..p
galadriel: Not a good hand for bergen raises
santyclz: Hmmm. Not my guess.
Teams). We are in 2nd day of the event, round 5.
bobholl: 4 ♠ migth go down on
ruff
lestergold: east will and quickly
christinas: these boards are not really rocking
the boat
Walddk2: England only 18 behind now, but it’s a
little too late. Only 2 boards remaining there..1N
garnetts: I hope that is not a weak two :)
henrik_r: Dorthe should jam the auction with 3
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santyclz: Hi folks. Hi Cornelia...p
Walddk4: Hi Cornelia, Mike and Joe
ady: another part score
east will contest
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but
might be too high
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ady: 4
way over the topp
idc: but as a passed hand, North can bid a 4 card
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lestergold : hi all from famous transatlantic
alliance A commentating team of Mike here and
Chick
henrik_r : Even though he has 17 hcp Ulrik
should pass because of lousy distribution and
KQ which are not very good
hedyg: 1♣ 3 cards 11 +
drg: 4 is basically on Kx onside here. limited
to 3 on this layout..p
ziff: Very borderline double, vulnerable
galadriel: They apparently don’t play that..2♠
lestergold: well n/smust bid game remains to be
seen which one and whetehr or not they make
chick: and Joe :)
lestergold: well 2cf double vulerable might be
worth about a non vul game or so..p
joest: yes
joest: east will do well to run right now
lestergold: 2d would be a good bolt hole
joest: not that it’s clear. It’s a guessing game
now after the t/o double
joest: btw, would anyone consider 1NT by West
as being for the minors so as to forestall a problem
like this?
bobholl: would be a nice understanding but not
realistic imo
joest: West certainly wants to stop a 2 rescue if
he can
lestergold: i would not be too happy with north’s
hand defending a 2 level contract
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mollerjep: a good pass by ulrik
ady: think down 2
lestergold: and Joe too .... wow..3♠
santyclz: Somebody has to do the comedy relief.
henrik_r: If I were to bid anything I would prefer
santyclz: 3 s a transfer and 3♠ a superaccept?
3NT
too high. A bad advertisement for raising to 3
with four trumps...p
sybarra: how to get out of this now ..p
lestergold: will do cos east has spade ace
mollerjep: and thats the winner this time.....♣Q
henrik_r: But I wouldn’t have the balls to do it
in real life ;-)
mollerjep: of course you would :-)
christinas: I think I would have preferred D. He
cannot bid 2 NT
mariner1: this time the position is different so 8
hook was good play..♣6
lestergold: patrick ill not take club finesse
lestergold: i wager u
drg: schaltz did indeed bid the 50% slam on bd 5,
so they are pretty much out of it now..♣8
henrik_r: The question is how Jacob will play
spades..♣A
henrik_r: Will he play Peter for ♠Q10x ?
lestergold: dim will come
ady: this is going to slip through
garnetts: 4 is enough--hand has already limited
and described ..♠3
garnetts: Golden rule limit your hand and leave
it to partner
santyclz: Well, 5 isn’t safe but makes on this
layaout.
chen_xin: ˆ ´¥ˆ ˆ“ˆ ˆflˆ ´fi´»ˆ 8imp..♠4
ady: can still beat it now with diamond switch
bcallaghan: 3D is one down I believe...♠7..♠T
ianrei: 3D is -1 if they take their tricks
lestergold : and if he didnt switch it would
deserve to make
garnetts: If they stop they get lucky ..♣5
joest: i think it might be 800
lestergold: now n/s can only make another three
tricks so only 200
viren169: suit is ok if pd has 3may be go via
some sort of checkback
lestergold: 4 made only off on heart lead which
incidentally was marked on the takeout double..♣
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ady: 2♠ from south should tell the story..♣J
sybarra: now just hopes hts split..♠2.. 3
lestergold: sory 4 tricks
chick: good play, can afford to lose the ♣K if
avoiding a heart loser
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santyclz: Close to a 3 bid.
keylime: B3: partial swing as predicted; six imps
for a quiet 2♣ partial instead of a push for the
need to cash the club ace..p
garnetts: Might get too high I suppose--but no
good reason to
chick: a good idea, but not without long discussion
joest: probably true but I’m not sure that 1NT is
natural or should be
bobholl: bidding 1nt and than redouble migth be
a good idea :)
chthonic : After this auction -- through the
redouble -- it might be reasonable to play 1NT as
unusual.....
chthonic: from west
joest : i agree that the redouble makes all the
difference
lestergold: in 4s its not so easy for the defenc eto
find a heart ruff
joest: I’m sure n-s will happy to take the cash
here
chthonic: sort of a scrambling/unusual bid
lestergold : east on lead why should he start
banging down aces on air?
bobholl: 2♣ will go for 500 i think :)
chick: close game here, might make it if he can
get a heart pitched on the K
lestergold: me im always so serious
hedyg: would 2 over 1♣ be weak?
hedyg: cannot bid 3 with that suit
viren169: Yes... North would still have declined
drg: this doesn’t look like that happy a contract
christinas: 3 clubs is lebensohl, W shows a good
hand
mariner1: well so do our NS..4♣
ianrei: if they had stopped in 2S E/W could play
their cold 3d..p
Walddk2: This is why Drury was invented. To
avoid the 3-level
lestergold: if the cash is 200 it may not be good
enuf
ady: except J♠ doubleton
lestergold: vulnerbale againsty not it disobeys
the dictum that you need trick taking security in
your long suit top make this kind of bid the heart
pips are terrible
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lestergold: deserves to be doubled and go 1400..p
ady: in fact needs diamond shift
bcallaghan: North - South have got themselves
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lestergold: but it wasnt a very hardf switch to
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find.. J.. A
bjacobs: I don’t blame N/S for bidding on. I
wouldn’t like to be defending 4 in the hope that
4 black suit losers stand up.. 4
garnetts: The think is about how to explian to
partner that I should have bid 4 if this goes off..
♠6
hedyg: with 3 cards he would raise 2
viren169: all routes still keep N/S in the safe
zone.
hedyg: if S was weak with 6 cards he might have
a direct 2 bid
hedyg: Christina would know :)
christinas: yes, a jump to two hearts over 1club
would have been weak
hedyg: ty:)
chick : Our vugraph operator today is Isabel
Correia :)..♠5
bobholl: tempo for 800 now :)..♠A..♠Q.. K
joest: cash is good :)
joest: west gets two more tricks
lestergold: 500 after all
joest: he only has three now
keylime: b4: 3NT making six, so the six club
slam and excellent play, nets more imps to N-S..
T
sybarra: right
ady: agree.. 2.. 6
pentacon: Lots of noice i think, 4H on a 4 looser
hand , he wont get partner to bid on the right
values !!
mariner1: so a push
joest: north might have pitched hearts there to get
the club jack promoted
lestergold: 4h not justifiable vul because of the
heart pips
pentacon: As the Jack of hearts and the King of
Diamonds
ady: 3
is reasonable
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Board
NS:
EW:
o
c 2
10
this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
Geologi Timah
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E
-1
100
10
9
♠J64
7
Q85
7-6
7
AQ5
8
♣A J 9 7
♠Q
N ♠K 9 7 5 2
AK J
10 7 6 4
W E
J10 9 6 4
K2
S
♣10 6 3 2
♣Q 8
♠ A10 8 3
4
5
932
5-6
873
5
♣K 5 4
4
600
W: Julius A G
W
p
p
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
p
p
1N
2
p!
p
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ª § ª
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ª © §
#1 S:: 3,J,A,2
#2 N:: 7,8,K,2
#3 S:: 5,3,A,Q
#4 N:: 5,K,7,4
#5 E:: 2,A,Q,4
#6 S:: 4,6,9, 4
#7 E:: K,3, T, 6 #8 E:: 5,8, J, J
#9 W:: T,Q, T, 8 #10 E:: 7,T, K, J
#11 W:: 6,,,
idc: Yes - Bergen raises after p p 1M p less useful whu preempt opps when they have shown no
inclination to enter so far?
joest: i don’t see how east-west could realistically
be expected to find the heart ruff
bobholl: 3 nt looks reasonable but
:)
Walddk5: Welcome to Jesper Thomsen
pentacon: Thx Roland
hedyg: Christina do you play the same system
with your partner?
lestergold: 3h invitational is fine
christinas: ok, now some action
keylime: at the other table, a precision 2♣ opener
landed N-S into 5♣..p
mariner1: and the lead that helped on 4
mariner1: 4♠ could be actually bid here..p
bjacobs: This surely won’t be a push
garnetts: shouldn’t maybe but............. :)
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lestergold: 26 combined points hard not to reach
n but it does not look at all promising
joest: many would just blast 3NT right here
lestergold: perfectly reasonable bid
joest: i hate responding 3NT to 1♣ though
mollerjep: hello jesper
lestergold: if you play that as strong oityherwise
double follwoed by a heart bid
keylime: yep, that lead was charitable..p
pentacon: Good ting for the match that its almost
square
viren169: how weak?
santyclz: And an easy slam.
christinas: slam i hearts or diamonds, hearts are
better, since you can pitch a dia mond on a club
and don’t need to guess diamonds
drg: can probably take all the tricks in spades, but
it’s not a claimer
asig: He needs to guess the ♣K
asig : (Throw two clubs on AK and trump
finesse against N)
drg: or perhaps score 3
ruffs. north may bid
diamonds and south may lead them
asig: 4♣ is RKC for spades, I think
pentacon: Hi John..1N!..2
viren169: Some play 1♣-2M= 6 card 3-6 hcps
drg: the hearts may be established if there is no
club lead
asig: 4 = 1A+♠Q
santyclz : Depends on how large and quicktempered your teammates are...p!
pentacon: Hi Henrik
galadriel: Some people play Michaels as either
weak or strong..would you call this strong?..p
bcallaghan : Thought I might see Michaels.
Want to avoid the trump suit that doesn’t break
though.
henrik_r: So Jesper who is your favorite ?
pentacon: I’m with the local team, Schaltz and
company ..
christinas : yes, I play the same system, it is
almost standard in DK to play those weak jumps,
at least minor to major
santyclz: Looks like a good time to get a refill on
my diet coke.
hedyg: 3♣ short? or mini?
lestergold: hm
lestergold: north will want to play this in diamonds
sadly so will east!
christinas: well bid
lestergold: infrangible 3b here..p
lestergold: 3N
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christinas: 3clubs shows min
hedyg: ty
ziff: Taking the bull by the horns.. 3
sybarra: this just doesnt make 4 good decision..
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bobholl: if east bids 2nt now ?
lestergold: 2n i assume forcing
christinas: he’ll make it
vugraphzpe: you hope...
drg: may take a while to play this one
ianrei: he must be regretting not showing the
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majors a round earlier.. A
Walddk2: uh oh
chick: one of these days, I need to find a word
like that of my own :)
christinas: but north doesn’t care..
hedyg: lol
lestergold: west rescue to 2s??
lestergold: yes they are all in there where angels
would fear to treaqd
christinas: If you don’t make a grand like that,
you wouldn’t sit there
vugraphzpe: Say that to your brother in law if he
fails to make it
garnetts: true was wondering 3 can be beaten-maybe not on that lead a trump would have been
interesting .. 2
lestergold: make one up Chick
mariner1: 3♠ does it this time..♣7
santyclz: For those interesting in purchasing the
rights to the word "infrangible", Mike is running
a special this week.
lestergold: who ll know difference
hedyg: i play it short
ady: 2
would make
joest: i predict a push..♣8
bobholl: still lead
after this bidding ?
viren169: looks like on thier way to 6
asig: He will make it
pentacon: Hopefully Martin and Rico will play
some nasty bridge the way i love it :)..♣K
christinas: 5hearts two withoput the Q
viren169: in double quick time...
christinas: easy, claim and next board
hedyg: either black ace is good for N
galadriel: Oh well, he obviously thinks its too
strong..♣2
idc: if only the auction had offered a clue that
suits were splittling badly
vugraphzpe: nice lead
hedyg: claim
lestergold: well 2d altho loses 3 trumps buty
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then only a further heart and a club so would have
made
pentacon: ups
lestergold: the sad think for declarer hjere is that
he will be staring at three dim gtricks in dummy
which he can never get at
idc: oh, wait a minute .....♣5
bcallaghan: I play any strength Michaels. I like
to get my shape over early.
mariner1: DX just took the lead so this should
bring it back to 1 imp
lestergold: likely to be a push will lose the first 5
hearts and still another trick as he does not have 8
tricks without losing the lead
mariner1: well 3N is out the window..♣3
Walddk2: Even if you don’t, it’s not too strong
vulnerable opposite a passed partner..♣A..♣Q
ianrei: this hand shows why Brian is right.. 5..
K
ianrei: 800 against a non-making game
galadriel: I think this is a clasical vul Michaels
christinas: I they lose this match I won’t dare
talking to him til next sunday
asig : Playing crossruff until he sees the ♣ K
dropping
keylime: I am not a fan of redouble here - you
have a clear idea of how you want to bid here..
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keylime: unless, they are forced to systemically
ady: reverse signals for n/s
lestergold: 2d presumably showing the six dimns
galadriel: 2 decent suits.. 4
Walddk2: Garvey bid Michaels in the other room
galadriel: and gets your hand over in one bid
keylime: CR also got to the laydown small slam,
but earned an imp by not getting the A♣ cashed.
vugraphzpe: a small brake - we’ll be right back
hedyg: ok
viren169: Coffee time...
idc: Hmmm, I seem to be channeling the sarcastic
spirit of Sam Leckie..♠2
bcallaghan: Garvey managed to avoid doing
something strange!..♠A
garnetts: Is is still allowed to play a King and
switch to show a singleton? (rather than the Ace)
santyclz: I like it at the 4 level and below (if not
playing Rusinow).
bobholl: south is kind of squeezed :)..♠Q
lestergold: well there isa double dummy spade
pin but that ill never happen
lestergold: how about ’undefenstratable’
mollerjep: Nobody can do as nasty as you :-)
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lestergold: the ruff is fine for teh defence
idc: that in itself counts as strange..♠4
lestergold: now must play club..♣4..♣6..♣9
lestergold: meaning it cant be thrown out of the
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christinas: hm, I think A of C and ruff club is
much better, now he cannot really afford to ruff
low, but of course he didnt expect N to have 4
hearts
drg: if he ruffs high, he must still contrinue a
complete crossruff to make
drg: if ruffs low, can, can ruff a diamond, overtake
the KS and claim
drg: and on the high ruff, must ruff a club before
ruffing the next diamond as well
lestergold: so is declarer..♠K..♠3..♣T
santyclz: Too fat to fit through the window?
lestergold: the word or me?
lestergold: defence going very well here
lestergold: this may well cost serious imps
lestergold: 4 tricks lost and another r4 to lose
800 wow
lestergold: north may imagine that he is endplayed
Walddk2: 800 or 1100, matters little..♠6..♠5
Walddk2: A club would have yielded 11..♠8
joest: can get out for down one if runs diamonds
joest: criss cross squeeze
santyclz : My guess at the definition of your
word.
bjacobs: Strange line but good enough. I would
have played on diamonds myself.. J..♠J
joest: but i doubt that will happen either :)
asig: well done.. T
drg: he’s worked out south must have enough
clubs to let him ruff the clubs low
lestergold: icy.. Q.. T
lestergold: i mean i see not the contract is icy
idc: it matters for the 100 IMP difference.. 8
Walddk2: Maybe it still will
santyclz: Now he just has to guess the s for
game, fair vul game. ..♠7..♠T
chick: maybe I’ll just use plain english after all :)
vugraphzpe: peter is asking for signals... K
henrik_r: Peter is considering whether to finesse
in spadea
santyclz: Excuse me, *she* .....♣J
lestergold: icy shoprter than infrangible
pentacon: He will do the finesse in spades, his
best .. 6
bobholl: criss cross always easier with 52 cards
seen
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Board 11
this/total IMPs
NS:
Mitra Buana
EW:
Geologi Timah
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c 4♠ x E 4
590
11
7
♠9 8 6
3
Q10 3
8
10 5
4
9
♣10 8 5 4 2
♠Q J 4
N ♠ K10 7 5 3 2
K95
J8
W E
K6
Q J984
S
♣Q J 9 7 3
♣
♠A
5
10
A7642
4
A732
7
♣AK 6
3
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W: Julius A G
W
p
3♠
p
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
1
p
2♠
X
4
4♠
X
p
p
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§A,3,2,ª2
©2,K,3,8
¨K,5,4,A
ª9,7,©6,ªJ
#1 S::
#3 S::
#5 W::
#7 N::
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ª3,A,4,6
ªQ,8,5,¨2
©4,5,Q,J
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#2 E::
#4 W::
#6 S::
#8 W::
Walddk2: Last board of the match now. Many
thanks to Simon Cochemˆ', our outstanding
operator at Oxford. Well done!
idc: yes, thx Simon
keylime: this room now about two boards behind
joest: spade game/reasonable save
santyclz : Just come up with a definition for
shoprter.
vugraphzpe: let’s go!
santyclz: Good timing, had to go to the basement
for my refill.
hedyg: lol
lestergold: hard for him to sell out to 2d
lestergold: 800 to save a partwcore is not good
bridge
lestergold: my understatemen of te day
Walddk2: Also thanks to our excellent commentators:
Anne Martin, Ian Crorie, Brian Callaghan and Ian
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lestergold: shoprter is short for shoplifter
galadriel: Thanks everyone :)..p
vugraphzkk: Director hovering ... 4 minutes to
go
galadriel: Especially to specs for all your helpful
comments:)
mariner1: me too
bjacobs: Another misesd game in the CR - this
time one belonging to E/W
pentacon: He could have tried out for a double,
partnes Passes or bids his 5 card Heart !
ady: looks a part score again north will contest
with hearts
garnetts: I really do not like pass..p
Walddk2: Finally, our gratitude to Bridge Great
Britain (Sandra Claridge) and the English Bridge
Union (Max Bavin and Michael Clark) for
bringing this prestigious event to BBO vugraph
and .....2♠
Walddk2: inviting us to participate
santyclz: Different styles. In the USA many
would bid 3 with n.
bobholl: by me that’s natural :)
joest: this is a bid I play as natural
chick: natural for me as well
ziff: Looks like a dull 3NT, not what the Schaltz
team needs
mariner1: 4 makes here suprised was not bid in
Closed..
garnetts: I have a lot of sympathy with that
lestergold : e/w opted in open to defend 4h
doubled fo 100rather than chalk uop their infranguible
spade game
galadriel: Even the ones about Brian’s shape :)..3
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bcallaghan: Thanks everyone. Looks like I’ve
managed to support the team of destiny here.
mariner1: 5 not such a good save,,,,,, 4♠ can
be beat
santyclz : Are n-s playing a limited opening
system?
sybarra: no clue
joest: i’m heading to the dictionary
chick: I figure if you have the other 2 suits, you
have X for a good hand and unusual NT for a
poor one ... no need for michaels type bids
mollerjep: tough to get to 5d
henrik_r: Being a passed hand I do not understand
Dbl
henrik_r: Why not simply 3 ?
pentacon: Perhaps Ulrik should have bid 4Clubs
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lestergold : its 25 combined with e/w im not
convinced they ll settle for a part score
ziff: Hm
christinas: I was thinking 6 clubs...
drg: south has a pretty easy diamond lead vs 6♣
christinas: without a D lead it makes
keylime: pressure bid of 4♠ and the double was
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good tactics I felt..4 ..4♠
keylime: force the opps to the last guess
pentacon: Not perfect for a fit bid, but shows
why
mollerjep: thats the way
henrik_r: You could bid 4♣ but it leaves room
for N to bid 4
henrik_r: I would bid 4 if I had
instead of
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mollerjep: will he bid 6d? I dont think so...
pentacon: thats a point
vugraphzpe: peter has bid 6d
ianrei: thanks to all - been good fun this weekend..
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mariner1: well 5♠ a phantom too
bobholl: 4 ♣ now :)
lestergold: so2d micahels and the double of 3h
showing a good michaels
joest: infrangible. good one!
hedyg: on A♣ lead 9♣ will be hard to read
ianrei: 6C or D on the C position..p
mariner1: 3N makes too
lestergold: i assume that n/s are playing strong n/
t and kendrick has upgraded
hedyg: but he will switch to and S will play 10
♣ back maybe
christinas: but if he plays a H, S will return clubs,
so it should be easy to beat
hedyg: as long as A♣ promises K
christinas: ♠
christinas: just testing...
hedyg: :)
hedyg: learning to write the symbols?
hedyg: cute gadget
christinas: yes, but sometimes I find it quicker
just to write the first letter
santyclz : Eerie guardless of whether the ace
promises the k, s will return a ♣.
hedyg: sure
christinas: but that can confuse i suppose
hedyg: no, its fine
viren169: have I missed much?
ady: e/w can make around 10 tricks in diamonds
lestergold: as cards lie its all they can make of
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lestergold: but they dont know it
keylime: yep, this is going to get the treatment..p..p
bjacobs: Good practical bid by Zou there
chthonic: Double here only leads to possible
misunderstanding
chthonic: Guess not
hedyg: no
lestergold: they will find out tho sortly
drg: don’t think they can get more than 300 vs
this
lestergold: hard for west to value his hand..♣A
bobholl: 2 imp gain :)
lestergold: it may be an upgrade too far here
chick: that’s a pretty hefty upgrade on 13 hcp
henrik_r: That serves him right for not bidding 3
;-)
keylime: and CR bid and made 6 for 15 imp
swing..♣3
mariner1: yes it was
idc: team of destiny versus the stone of destiny..
♣2
idc: we certainly have sunk like a stone...
keylime: now the match is much closer
Walddk2: 6 in the CR..♠2
galadriel: Yay!
joest: if east overcalls 1♠ and catches a raise he
blasts himself into game
lestergold: but west showed nothing at all so
cant blame east..♠3
chthonic: except for 4-1 spades, six clubs might
have made...
joest: it’s often harder to gauge the auction when
you make a two-suited bid b/c partner winds up
making many decisions
hedyg: 9♣ can be from 4 cards? no way
chthonic: if spades offered two discards and
clubs 2-2.....♠A
idc: that’ll get it back under 100, phew..♠4
ianrei: 6S only 500
lestergold: 6heart tricks set up and with ace of
dim entry its a cruel game
ady: south not detered from leading partners suit
mariner1: making 5..♠6
garnetts: 1NT can work well actually on this
hand type
chthonic: playing a part score seems a bit timid
calabres: Link for Results at : http://www.freewebs.com
/fpbridge/2009_Estoril_Open_Teams_R4.pdf
bobholl: drop
:)
joest: but it’s going to pick up some imps
lestergold: at some point patrick will finesse the
club into the doubleton queen and roof will fall in
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viren169: go for a coffee... end up having to do
the washing up!
keylime: this will be 300 going the wrong way
here.. 2
mariner1: this is 8 or 11 imps
lestergold: hye shouldnt be with ace x!.. K.. 3
santyclz : That would be my choice, I’m not
lawful enough... 8
lestergold: well patrick wouldnt make a game
invite with only two aces opposite a weak no
gtrump
pentacon: No square match anymore ....♠Q
henrik_r: It seems that Jacob did well by doubling
2 on the previous board
vugraphzpe: another minor brake of play
henrik_r: At the other table they got to 3NT and
Morten LM did not find the diamond lead
hedyg: get a machine!
viren169: I am the machine!..♠8
Walddk2: Thanks to all spectators for coming.
Hope you enjoyed the show..♠5
chick: anything except pass :).. 2
lestergold: three off is good bridge
lestergold: well for n/s kit uis
keylime: 12 imps I think here.. K
lestergold: works sometimes Chick a lot ofgood
players do it from time to time
santyclz: I’ve been trying to come up with any
excuse for not taking the ♣ finesse, but was
unable to... 5.. 4.. A
garnetts: passing out 1 looked right from East’
s perspective--was scared of spades I think.. 4
Walddk2: Vugraph every day next week (sigh) :)
.. 5
Walddk2: Bye for now.. Q
ianrei: bye all
galadriel: Byeeeee
bcallaghan: Bye.
lestergold: when it falls flat it falls down with a
bang as here
lestergold: with no e/w bidding that would be
ahard theory to come up wioth.. J
chick: I’m pretty boring ... I stick to 15-17 and
upgrade after I find out what my partner has :)
bobholl: kind off releive :)..♠9
lestergold: Chick you are very far from boring
but maybe you might play bridge soundly and
sensibly..♠7.. 6
garnetts: I might have bid 1♠ as north when I
was younger--did once and found it annoyingly
difficult to respend to 5NT..♠J.. 6
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NS:
EW:
o
c 3N
12
this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
Geologi Timah
W
-1
50
12
4
♠ A J10 7
8
K J6
10
3
J
7
♣10 8 7 5 2
♠K 8 6
N ♠ 94
AQ2
5
W E
Q7 32
A K10 8 6 5 4
S
♣Q J 3
♣ K64
♠Q5 32
8
3-4
10 9 8 7 4 3
3
9
10
♣A9
6
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W: Julius A G
W
1
2N
p
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N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
p
2
p
p
3N
p
p
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ª
ª © ª ¨
ª
ª§ ª
#2 S:: Q,6,T,4
#1 N:: 5,4,A,J
#3 S:: 2,K,A,9
#4 N:: J, 6, 3,8
#5 N:: 7, 5, 5, 2
Walddk2: This hasn’t been Scotland’s day. 4-25
against England and now this HT score
mariner1: oh 12 yes miss added
keylime: that hurts
keylime: N-S having enough of the play to feel
decent, until that hand
keylime: and here’s one of the wild boards
keylime: in the CR:
bobholl: we are having much more compares
thatn the other room nice :)
lestergold: roland slam here
mollerjep: To much bidding by the Schaltz?!
hedyg: in that case.......
lestergold: 4h for n/s
lestergold: a little precarious
drg: if partner held the J , playing clubs was just
as good, and if not...
keylime: West opened a multi..1
calabres : Link for Results after R7 : http://
www.freewebs.com/fpbridge/2009_Estoril_Open
_Teams_R7.pdf
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mollerjep: No, lund madsen had the same chance....but
its not obvious with A109xx
henrik_r: No indeed
viren169: nice hand now... for a bit of action
santyclz: Partner’s with no sense of humor can
be tiresome...p
lestergold: no heart lead and jd with east and
dims are se up to get rid of heart losers
bobholl: a very good one to boot :)
lestergold: a lright misfit outside hearts
galadriel: Were doing very well up till then..2
keylime: and N-S got into it and got smacked
around firmly
bjacobs: 3NT has issues
lestergold: not a fighting chicken tho on this
occasion
joest: the perfect moment
galadriel: Still time to recover in this match..p
lestergold: but theyll bid kit and ,live or die on
the dim guess
Walddk2: Good afternoon to Brain Callaghan
from England..2N
Walddk2: Brian sorry
bcallaghan: Good afternoon
bjacobs: This could be another huge swing
lestergold: maybe n/sin trouble here
mollerjep: You’re brother did the right thing at
the right time :-)
santyclz: Another potential slam, this one unlikely
either to be bid or make.
viren169: 4 ?
hedyg: 4 = 6 s and 4♠s, limited hand
lestergold: well e/w dont want to let them bid
their game
ady : a possible 4
for n/s may be put to
diamond guess
lestergold: penalty may be a better option
pentacon: 3Clubs is a transfer splinter , single
Heart
pentacon: 2NT would have been single Diamond
mariner1: yes 1400 was not good..p
joest: I think pass by north is losing bridge in the
long run but that’s just my opinion
lestergold: whre is roland
santyclz: A well deserved minus after n’s foolhardy
1nt. (If it had made it would have been a well
earned plus after n’s tactical 1nt.)
lestergold: if east trusts his pards double
chick: the victors write the history :)
hedyg: no extras, just shape showing
galadriel: Hello Brian..3N
keylime: here, a measly 1♠.
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mariner1: 1400 and 1♠ not a balance
santyclz: Ahhh, now we see the other half of he
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henrik_r: 2 = 5 6-11 hcp
lestergold: transfer to what?
ady: 1
shows spades
Walddk2: EW play a multi-way 1♣ with transfer
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responses and a strong NT..p
sybarra : wonder what they open with what
would be a weak 2
garnetts: Interesting lead
santyclz: Thanks Luis.
viren169: nice gadget to have in your kitbag...
vugraphzpe: contract IS 4 ...
hedyg : not very common to do it with both
majors but widely used after a minor opening
drg: settling for 2♠ with that is going quite low
drg: 3N was going to make with the friendly lays
in the minors
drg: spade contracts are not fun, however
Walddk2: N-S modified Polish Club..p
galadriel: 2♣ was bold
joest: do east-west play a club system?
lestergold: does north realise they have a mountain
between them?
chick: S comes to life, they might figure it out yet
bobholl: vulnarable partner bidding 2 ♠ :) 4 1/2
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joest: i would bid 4
joest: or at least cue bid 3
lestergold: n/s have been dealt only 4 tricks that i
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can see buty onje will probably arise in the weash
calabres: wlc Joe
lestergold: the heart pips may produce that fifth
trick
lestergold: but dummy does not have an embarras
de riche of entries
Walddk2: Good afternoon to Ian Crorie from
Scotland..p
idc: Hi all, Roland dredging the bottom of the
commentating barrel
lestergold: unless this is repeated in the open
room , this could be a fair gain for the local team
Walddk2: lol..♣5
chick: perhaps the double will help him ... for
example a low club to the 10 brings in 2 club
tricks (as the cards lie)
pentacon: Nice bidding
idc: and I came up.....♣4
lestergold: without hesitation
lestergold: wow..♣A
lestergold: much easier money than playing in
4h
mariner1: 3N played well in Closed,,, and not
even close to finding it here..♣J
bobholl: chickken :)
henrik_r: Yes well bid by Dorthe and Peter and
now making after the lead
hedyg: oh my! E passed
lestergold: e/w have gone on itilt
lestergold: tiltr
ady: around 500
lestergold: at least 500 and their game is not
even guaranteed
galadriel: NS play a very aggressive overcalling
style, but they are young and adventurous..♠Q
garnetts: My guess is 2 Shirley
sybarra: was thinking same
lestergold: putting his pard under more pressure
especially when he had a takeout double to staqrt
with maybenot worlds greatest but he had one in
my book..♠6
lestergold: 12 points and 4 cards in the other
major i double
chick: I think no question N should have made
immediately takeout X
bobholl: if you play ELC he surely had one :)
pentacon: 9 tricks from start..♠T
pentacon: 10 now
henrik_r: Sorry one over trick. Can’t count ;-)
lestergold: has to double hook the dims to hold
the loss to 500
galadriel: Hello Ian ..♠4
idc: yes, last one I watched was JTxxx for a nonspace consuming 1 over 1♣
Walddk2: I remember the BBO usernames of
East and South. Boeles is gnasher and Gillis is
Capercliff
Walddk2: Bowles
galadriel: Yes and that got pd off to the wrong
lead
galadriel: that is the danger
bjacobs: Well, East found the one disastrous lead:
Q
bcallaghan: I wouldn’t have overcalled myself,
but it looks like it stopped EBU from finding the
heart fit...♠2
lestergold: you double because you have to not
because you like ur hand
hedyg: wd!..♠K
keylime: this will net some needed imps for SYT
here ..♠A
lestergold: well 2 cl 2h and 2d will be tricks but
e/wwill make 8 tricks before that..♠9
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santyclz: 2♣ show s or big hand?..♠J
sybarra: must be
garnetts: I have seen decs play the ace and pick
up the whole suit
joest: I’ll have to remember that one Mike. I’ll
use it on my partner next time I enter on some
marginal hand and we go for a number :)
joest : but I already weighed in on behalf of
double a while back
lestergold: true u diod
lestergold: well defence has resolved the dims..
♣6..♠3
lestergold: iwas just supporting u because its so
important to underline the degree of underbidding
here by north ..♠8
joest: so just so I have this straight: 4♠ = infrangible..
♠7
joest: I like it
santyclz: The 2nd
was fatal to -3... 5
christinas: he has to quess the spades if N covers
the Q..♠5.. 2
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Board
NS:
EW:
o
c 3♠
13
this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
Geologi Timah
W 3
140
13
♠Q 8 6
K654
742
♣K J 5
♠ K10 9 5
N ♠J732
A97
Q J10 8
W E
K8
A10 5
S
♣A 8 6 2
♣10 9
♠A 4
32
Q J963
♣Q 7 4 3
140
W: Julius A G
W
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1
1♠
3♠
7
9
8
6
6
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
p
p
p
p
1
p
p
2♠
p
p
p
p
¨2,5,J,K
§4,A,5,T
©Q,3,7,K
¨7,T,Q,ª5
#1 N::
#3 S::
#5 E::
#7 N::
6
4
5
6
7
©
ª9,6,2,A
¨8,4,A,3
§K,9,3,2
ªK,8,3,4
#2 W::
#4 W::
#6 N::
#8 W::
galadriel: I think EW will settle for that
Walddk2: A lot of if’s, but if EBU can hold on to
a lead around 40 (21-9), England must win the
second half by 50 IMPs against Wales to win the
Camrose Trophy. So EBU in a very strong ...
Walddk2: position now that England are 33 IMPs
in arrears against Wales
bcallaghan: Not exactly a triumph when Gillis
had a normal raise.
Walddk2: North is rawol and West is catch22 on
BBO
keylime: not something you hear normally..."plus
80, gain 16"
lestergold : i always say that 1n is the most
diffiult contract to defend
lestergold : roland slam here frigid when qs
appears and often frigid when they dopnt lead a
club..p
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lestergold: maybe too good for a roland
chthonic: with 3-3 diamonds, this makes six
spades without a club lead...
bobholl: culbertson opening 3 quick tricks :)
joest: i open
joest: which isn’t saying a lot to be sure
mariner1: another barn burner here..p
bobholl: i open 1nt if 12-14 nice hand :)
pentacon: Wild west Board this one ..
henrik_r: 7 /♠ for EW but not easy to get there
mollerjep: 6 or 7?
mollerjep: what about the diamonds?
pentacon: 7S i fantastic, nine card diamond fit,
entry on King of clubs
keylime: CR opened this 1H, preempt raise to 4,
got doubled, and they let TWO overtricks pass
through. ..p
santyclz: This is an accident-prone hand.
lestergold: but not guaranteed
christinas: not unlikely EW will reach 3NT here,
and that is not gonna make
mollerjep: 5h and counting :-)..1
christinas: actually I think he ought to make a
club finesse when in dummy because of the entry
problem. If Kx hearts is onside, he still has a
heart to lose
mariner1: not sure where N thought their tricks
were vs 4♠ in Closed..p
keylime: B7: 4♣ down 1, but more imps to SYT
sybarra: blasting into 4 ? I thought he would
bid
bobholl: no 6♠ now :)
chick: 1N is my favorite contract to play
galadriel: This looks like a normal 4♠..1
bcallaghan: Looks like a diamond lead needed to
break a slam.
garnetts: Pass looks right to me over 1♠
lestergold: whjy on eafrth did he want to ruff
when he had the naturals
idc: I guess as a passed hand ... yikes, off and
running..p
joest: I’m in a minority who likes to be able to
bid 3♠ on west’s hand there showing extra length
and extra vlues
lestergold: 4s easy make every card right
galadriel: Will E X 5 bid?..1♠
Walddk2: I doubt it
galadriel: I doubt it too
lestergold: i open eastit has ak a i have to tell
partner about this always in case oppos get frisky
so partner can double them otherweise hell never
bel;ieve i have three bullets
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lestergold: yes cosyou can play it badly chick
knowing the defenders will defend it even worse!!!
santyclz: Redoubled, just to make it interesting.
chick: that’s the best kind for me to play, where
the opps make a lot of mistakes :)
viren169: pushy 2♣ in most systems
hedyg: 2♣?
christinas: I think it is ok with Kx in spades you have an easy rebid
santyclz: In addition it means he still has a
in
dummy to prevent a continuation.
viren169: North may well bid 3♣ now
hedyg: lol Matias
lestergold : shlould have pl;ayed hearts and
hearts let declarer do his own work
pentacon: Balanced with 4 card Spade, 12-14 or
18-19
ady: will likely locate the 4-4 spade fit
must
be carefull not to get overboard
drg: could be headed for 2 X
idc: I was about to say you can have so many
sophisticated methods for passed hand raises, 4♠
here seems a bit agricultural..p
santyclz: If it’s right over 1♠, it has to be right
over 2♠s.
chick: I would think at least a negative double (
intending to bid hearts later, showing weak hand
long suit)
keylime: East’s done well to find a bid and get to
a good game bid here..2♠
garnetts: Not for my money--I am sure I would
bid 3 now
calabres: Results at : http://www.freewebs.com/
fpbridge/2009_Estoril_Open_Teams_R1.pdf
sybarra: ty Luis
hedyg: 5♣ is a great contract
christinas: will S get interested now?
viren169: South will be swimming backwards!
christinas: actually 4 spades makes
viren169: It wont be clear to South how good
North is...
vugraphzpe: Morten LM looks more irritated
than interested
santyclz: 3nt also.
viren169: and why North did not bid 3♣ over 2
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hedyg: N gets tapped on a
lead
drg: or 2♠X
vugraphzpe: or 2♣xx?
drg: that would be good for the schaltz team
christinas: :)
asig: Brˆ‚ndum is looking for the xxx-card in the
bidding box
joest: I’m not sure I’m in love with a 3 rebid..p
lestergold: not automatic to bid game on these
cards but theyll be sorry if gtehy dont
christinas: but it is dangerous no matter which
contract they end up in
Walddk2: What do we know, Anne?..3♠
mariner1:
lead and swicth needed
joest: this has induced west, not unreasonably, to
think maybe diamonds is a source of tricks
bobholl: but what else P won’t have 4
joest: i raise to 3♠
lestergold: 3n an appaling spot iof thats where
they play but cant fil today
lestergold: cant fail today
pentacon: 6H from Ulrik first time ?
henrik_r: Tough. Jacob has aces, but no tricks.
Ulrik has tricks but no aces
henrik_r: My guess is that 4♠ has a very wide
range in their style
lestergold: 4s fine spot
bobholl: may be the 2♣ cues will win the board :)
..p
galadriel: Not alot apparently :)..p
hedyg: he did not bid 3♣ because he has 4 s
mariner1: well J♣ is not the optimum lead..p
joest : indeed. West is screaming for a heart
control
lestergold: this cue bid will prepare then drfence
to beat the slam they look like they are headed for
joest: south’s pass of 5 is big
lestergold: i mean they are leading a club whatever
pentacon: 3H is transfer
christinas: 2MaD might make
idc: I think Gillis has done enough already, 5
seems like overegging the pudding.. 2
galadriel: Grand slam try froms?
lestergold: no they are in the sensible spot of 4s
but all three agmes infrangible tody
ziff: Hi all
Walddk5: Welcome to Matthias Berghaus
ady: hi Mathiass
lestergold: can lose a heart spade and a club
afford that is
lestergold: hi Mathiass
garnetts: I quite like the initial pass and bidding
later if apt .. 5
santyclz: After the opponents have shown no fit?
hedyg: this should make nicely.. J
christinas : I have to say that this shows that
2clubs wasn’t such a bad bid after all...
Walddk2: I don’t think I would have found a
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bobholl: we would seeing 52 cards :)
joest: and now the 3 rebid comes home to roost
lestergold: well well
are 33 :)
bobholl:
lestergold: club club fin ishes this one off
christinas: but now they will probably lead a H
christinas: they are running out of boards
galadriel: Not me..♠9
galadriel: I have 2 other aces
hedyg: it sure has worked like a charm!
christinas: please ignore that I’m married to S
christinas: :)
hedyg: of course !
viren169: It worked well here...
christinas: Schaltz need it
santyclz: If we’re supposed to ignore that you’re
married to south, what are you doing for dinner?
hedyg: :)
vugraphzpe: LOL
christinas: :)
christinas: Actually since you ask, I am dining
with N’s wife...
hedyg: rofl
christinas: so I’m absolutely partial
christinas: In Denmark most top bridge players
have been related to each other in some way
vugraphzpe: Is it too much to ask for a discussion
of some relevance to the match?
christinas: Matias is just annoyed because he
hasn’t had dinner yet...
hedyg: well we are waiting for W to play!
christinas: Actually my partner this season is
married to West, just to prove my point
hedyg: trying to fill the time
hedyg: :)
santyclz: These are supposed to be entertaining
as well as educational.
hedyg: and she is kib here?
drg: declarer can still manage 8 tricks
idc: not with that suit. Add in 2 side suit Aces
and even less chance..♠6
galadriel: Successful here though
Walddk2 : Devastating if you are a Scotland
supporter
galadriel: yep
bcallaghan: I thinks Bowles did very well here.
With two side aces either making or not, he tried
to get a diamond established.
mcarroll: interesting
joest: now another club tapping dummy shuts out
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the spade suit
santyclz: Don’t remember when I’ve seen so
many cards well placed.
pentacon: Will Ulrik drive it to 6S if Jacob bids
5S on 5H ?
christinas: In that case a bit strange Roland lets
me comment
santyclz: Wd by n...♠2..♠A
lestergold: doesnt matter if he doesnt continue
clubs cannot set up spades no entry to enmjoy
them
joest: true
lestergold: but he will with that Jack
mcarroll: true
idc: he did - to be fair to the dbl of 5 , he was
probably expecting NS to stop in 5♠..♣4
sybarra: ?
sybarra: could have made both ♠
chick: hmmm, probably thinks he should save the
boss trump for later
lestergold: so this congtract is headed in prqactice
for a few light
idc: and a diamond lead may well be best against
that..♣A
christinas: oh yes, she is
galadriel: That’s a good point..♣5
hedyg: you are entertaining!
lestergold: cant put this on gthe floor as cards lie
Walddk2: Yes, he did not envisage a slam to be
bid, did he?..♣T
joest: this was is not infrangible; it’s inelegant
bobholl: 6♠ is somewhat better then 50%
christinas: And probably longing to say something:)
joest: this one.. 8
sybarra: I can hear N’s groan .. 4
lestergold: Martin Garvey is floating around
chick: *partner frowns*.. A
lestergold: declarer will draw trumps and when
dust settles will lose another club and 2 hearts
viren169: get her on too!
christinas: I dont know how, Roland has to fix
that
christinas: Besides they have 3 children at the
age of 0, 2, 4 so she migth be busy:)
santyclz: Send a msg to Roland giving her id and
asking him to ungag her.
hedyg: she is afk
hedyg: we better ask her first.. 3
ziff: This looks quite cold on the lie of the cards,
only a mirage can save the defenders
lestergold: chloice of ways of playing the contractr
but all will lead to it making
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horrible 3 .. Q.. 3.. 7.. K
ady: can set up 4th hert to avoid taking winning
diamond finesse..♣K
vugraphzpe: maybe there is some kind of endplay
squeeze?
drg: the defence still has a diamond exit
thegarve: oh no I’m not..♣9
lestergold: 6d is even below the roland threshhold
surely and whenever its making so is 6s ..♣3..♣2
Walddk2: Hoping to ruff out ♣K, but no such
luck. Besides, he is pretty short of entries anyway..
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lestergold: he is almost as hilarious as you Chick
Walddk2: He also needs to lead a heart up.. T..
Q
sybarra: remaining under control per Isabel
joest: he’s going to play spades from the top and
go three light..♠5
lestergold: going for restricted choice
lestergold: or winning dim drop!!
lestergold: but losing a spade in any case
lestergold: whatever he does just loses that onme
s[pade trick
ziff: Not if they cash 4 red tricks and exit safely
bobholl: 6♠ is not that bad i guess around 57% (
40% for 22) 17% from bare ♠ Q ..♠K..♠8
lestergold: you and i seemt o agree Jack !
chick: thanks a bundle :)..♠3
lestergold: i said only almost
santyclz: Bid these cold slams!..♠4
lestergold: 6s not dreadful at all but 6d is horrific
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Board 14
this/total IMPs
NS:
Mitra Buana
EW:
Geologi Timah
o
c 3 x S
-3
500
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4
♠ A10 8 6
4
9
5
4
10 8 7
3
♣K J 8 7 5
♠K 5 4 3 2
N ♠Q 9
A Q10 5 2
W E
AK J
9652
S
♣A Q 9 6 3
♣10 4
♠ J7
9
9
K J87643
7-8
Q43
9
♣2
9
400
W: Julius A G
W
X
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
p
3
p
p
p
Ä,7,2,3
§3,K,4,ª7
ªJ,4,A,Q
¨4,J,8,6
§9,J,©2,6
©5,7,§Q,ª8
©Q,J,ªK,§8
#1 W::
#3 W::
#5 S::
#7 S::
#9 W::
#11 E::
#13 E::
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§A,5,T,2
§7,ª9,©3,§6
ª6,¨5,©4,ª2
¨K,T,9,Q
©K,ª3,©9,A
©8,ª5,T,©T
#2 W::
#4 N::
#6 N::
#8 W::
#10 S::
#12 S::
galadriel: EBU pairs played very well in the first
half
joest: no. no prizes on that hand :)
joest: well east-west can fight back if they can
handle blackwood!
calabres: another fhantom slam :)
lestergold: well it seems to be the season for non
making slams
lestergold: i assume the lead is due to the 1n
doubled for 500
mollerjep: another freak deal...
henrik_r: But this makes the match more interesting
christinas : yes, but they were very far from
reaching the playoffs. They won last year
viren169: I see
viren169: thks
bcallaghan: 6S looks like a good spot here...p
pentacon: Another Grandslam :)
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lestergold: ugk
drg: bizzarre hand
mcarroll: no reason to bid 6 on these cards!!..3
joest: i can only describe the open room bidding
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calabres: in Open they havnt made blackwood:(
lestergold : auction in closed decided for no
discernible reason to do a blacwood bypass
bobholl: MY 4 bid 11-15 splinter :)
lestergold: i meant open
santyclz: And the 2nt-whatever.
lestergold: uve been reading too much Wald
idc: yes - but always tough to bid a good slam
when you have just bid a .... less than good one..
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keylime: I am sure that Ligong are going to be
shellshocked over the comparions
lestergold: and in op0en
christinas: It has been a very qualified season in
the 1. division in Denmark - strong teams
lestergold: yuch
ziff: No prisoners....
ady: 3NT?
drg: hearts has trump control issues, spades has
diamond issues
mariner1: 4♠ does not play well too much off..p
keylime: comparisons I meant
lestergold: its what happens after the pslinter
which is interesting
joest: it’s very important to have limited ranges
on your splinters. If you don’t East can get too
excited. Or even worst the splinterer might come
again at the five level and wind up ...
joest: going down
bobholl: not discussed what pass now means :)
lestergold: i agree Jack with limited strength
splinters
joest: I would think pass shows interest without a
descriptive bid. Certainly interested in hearing a
spade cue
hedyg: 1 =4+ cards
santyclz: E-w made 3nt on the 1ntx’d bd, but
they were only in 1...p
lestergold: not with gun to head not my style
hedyg: no 2♣ bid....p
drg: east hand was really heavy for 4 , so they
may end up selling out
henrik_r: 1♠ promises 5♠.. A
henrik_r: Dbl by S is most likely extra values
without a good bid
henrik_r: Now N is fixed because she did not set
as trumps on the previous round
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mollerjep: would you have done that?
henrik_r: Maybe, but 1♠ could have been the
right bid
ady: this can make
drg: the grand picked up 13 imps, but still difference
of 40
henrik_r: You "know" that your aggressive opps
are likely to bid alot of hearts before it is your
turn again .. 7
asig: This contract may even make, if the defence
is not careful
drg: spade lead is normal so should lose 3 side
suit tricks quickly enough
mollerjep: spade is ok as trump.. 2
lestergold: west has guaranteed that declarer will
not make any misguesses here.. 3
pentacon: club lead to defeat it !
lestergold: i.e. will get club right and make it
ady: needs a ace and another club to beat it
Walddk2: Don’t they bid 2nd round controls I
wonder..♣A
Walddk2: The lack of 4
idc: 1NT 15-17, 4♣ unclear
lestergold: not a bad save if its not a phantom
pentacon: Void splinter in hearts on the first
round ?
hedyg: attitude leads
sybarra: this could be touch and go, ♣ lead is
more difficult ..♣5
sybarra: aha
lestergold: well sanity remained in the closed
room
mcarroll: good bidding imho
lestergold: a lot ofm work to do in 4s if defence
find ace of clubs lead and then ruff killing thye
clubs suit then it snot all chopped liver
lestergold: unless west makes double dummy
lead of a low club
henrik_r: But AKxxx is all you need for slam
in and how are you going to get your partner to
coorporate now?..♣T
mollerjep: she dont need coorporation :-)
henrik_r: Yes but if partner had singleton spades
and AKxxx and ♣K how would I ever find out?
henrik_r : But I would most likely have bid
spades at the table as well
mariner1 : 3 boards to play,,,,, next session
scheduled for 32 minutes from now..♣2
joest: Adventures in Slam Bidding
pentacon: Lars and Morten Bid 7S on the previous
board!
bcallaghan: Presumably 4C a cue. Maybe 3H a
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know their methods...♣3
Walddk2: I agree Brian, and let 4m be a splinter
sybarra: just guess the ’s for one loser
santyclz: I see 8, doesn’t anyone see a 9th?
sybarra: ’s come home
lestergold: i dont think kelsy and ottlik would
have written about these adventures
mollerjep: I will never bid 6 small diamonds
before AQJ10x
idc: i expect you are right Brian - if 4♣ were a
splinter, the South hand has improved, if not, I
prefer his 4♠ signoff..♣K
keylime: this hand is down off the hope a bunch
on the heart lead
keylime: at least one that I see, likely two
pentacon: Peter only shows three clubs opening
1D,
asig: If declarer gives up a spade and the defence
tries two round of hearts, E will later be squeezed
santyclz: Yes, would be a bad hand for udca on
the ♣ lead...♣4
lestergold: or ace lof clusb works yes
ady: ace of clubs and another ok
ziff: That is the price you pay for 3♠, now and
again you concede 590
lestergold: but he didnt so no story except that
wes wi llno t be doubling next time opposite one
iof his partner s preempts
ady: 3NT certain to make
lestergold: youi could also be conceding 1400 or
so david
Walddk2: Finally some IMPs to Scotland. Must
be your presence, Ian..♠7..♣7
idc: though trumps are so good I might go for 4
amyway
bcallaghan: The main danger was that trumps
weren’t solid enough. Not sure they addressed
that, but OK here.
idc : thx Roland but the reality is once I start
talking about bridge, the other Scottish players
just *seem* better :)
galadriel: I think N just decided he was going to
be in slam when his pd showed a ♠ fit, and to be
fair, he does have a nice hand
idc: Interesting auction in other room - transfer to
♠ and then a forcing 3♠ bid by North
idc: (they transfer with 4+ suits on some hand
types) - presumably that invited South to cue but
he didn’t, and 4♠ it was
pentacon: three diamonds , sry
ady: not from south point of view
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Walddk2: That diamond again, says Gillis to
himself..♠9
bcallaghan: Presumably, in the other room, 4S
meant somethin. Good trumps? Otherwise 3NT
an alternative.
garnetts : well the spades do let you get two
tricks --not that you would look for them--but too
slow anyway
christinas: no, 1.3.5. against suit
hedyg: but 10 can be from H109..
mollerjep: Brˆ‚ndum took the save...but then the
brothers bid it!!! .. 3
lestergold: in gthe old days we had the rule of
what was it you had to have some playing tricks
for a preempt this one has close to zero playing
tricks as you have seven spade you must nake a ...
lestergold: spade so one playinmg trick
lestergold: Kendrisk wants to avoid losing more
than one diamond..♣6
idc: would be good to know what 4♠ meant - if
good trumps North really should go on, if min
and not interested ... well, North still might try..♠
J
mariner1: well he a small chance however line is
not likely
keylime: wow. did that just happen?
keylime: I think declarer’s got half a play for this
now
asig: good defence by Morten, destroying the
entry..♠4
drg: true, the K is gone now, so the squeeze is
just there
garnetts:
to the 9 looks normal..♠A
lestergold: 300 may be a good score..♠Q
idc: Having scored up with Garvey & Cooke a
few times, I know what Martin’s view will be,
lol..♠6
hedyg: always?
drg: as west hasn’t another club to knock the ace
out with
lestergold: cant go wrong now.. 5.. 4..♠2..
4
garnetts: at least I thought it did--prepared to be
told I am talking rubbish.. J.. 8
christinas: yes, opening lead
asig: oh yes - giv up a spade.. 6.. K.. T.. 9
lestergold: even green against red its unsound..
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Walddk2: claim time..♣9..♣J
Walddk2: not 1010?.. 2
keylime: this is the hammer that pins the nail into
Ligong’s coffin I think.. 6
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santyclz: I think running the 8 is right, you need
2 honors on side to make.
santyclz: Barring help from the opps... K
drg: too late now, declarer and dummy have to
commit first
mariner1 : there seems to be lots of pegs and
hammers :)..♠3
asig: should have played the spade earlier
ady: well played.. 9.. A
lestergold : but if you are behind in a match
allowable i suppose
keylime: There’s been enough swings to cause
motion sickness this match.. 5
ziff: "Unsound" looks like an underbid to me
drg : west will base his return on dummy’s
discard
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3♠
c 3N
15
this/total IMPs
Geologi Timah
7
116
Mitra Buana
157
E 4
170
W 5
460
15
4
♠Q 7 6 3
2
973
3
2
QJ
4
♣AK 8 2
♠2
N ♠ AK 9 8 5 4
K J5
A82
W E
A10 9 7
K64
S
♣10 9 7 4 3
♣Q
♠ J10
9
11
Q10 6 4
10
8532
11
♣J65
9
450
W
N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
N
E
p
1N
p
1
p
p
W: D Sacul
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#1 S:: 5,T,Q,K
#3 E:: K,J, 3, 6
#5 N:: A,Q,6,7
#7 E:: 9, 6, T, 7
#9 N:: 2, 5, J, 7
#11 W:: 5,3,A,T
#13 W:: J,9,8, 8
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3♠
E: T Asby
S
p
p
p
ªA,T,2,3
ª8,©4,§4,ªQ
§K,ª4,§5,9
¨4,2,9,J
¨6,3,A,§8
©2,Q,K,7
#2 E::
#4 E::
#6 N::
#8 E::
#10 E::
#12 E::
Board
NS:
EW:
o 3♠
c 3N
15
this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
157
Geologi Timah
7
116
E 4
170
W 5
460
15
4
♠Q 7 6 3
2
973
3
2
QJ
4
♣AK 8 2
♠2
N ♠ AK 9 8 5 4
K J5
A82
W E
A10 9 7
K64
S
♣10 9 7 4 3
♣Q
♠ J10
9
11
Q10 6 4
10
8532
11
♣J65
9
450
W: Julius A G
W
p
2♣
3N
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
p
p
p
1♣
p
2♠
p
p
p
p
©9,2,Q,K
ªK,J,¨7,ª6
ª4,§5,©5,ªQ
©J,3,8,4
#1 N::
#3 E::
#5 E::
#7 W::
ª2,3,A,T
ª9,¨3,§3,ª7
¨Q,4,2,A
¨9,J,,
#2 W::
#4 E::
#6 N::
#8 W::
galadriel: I remember a story about someone
deciding they just wouldn’t bid any slams for a
year, and reckoned they were in profit.. 7..♣Q..
♠8.. 8..♠5..♠T.. T.. Q.. J..♠K..♣8..p..p..1
!..1♠..p..1N..p..3♠..p..p..p.. 5.. T.. Q..
K..♠A..♠T..♠2..♠3..♠K..♠J..♣3..♠6..♠8..
4..♣4..♠Q..♣A..♣Q..♣6..♣7..♣K..♠4..♣5..♣
9..♠9.. 6..♣T..♠7.. 4.. 2.. 9.. J..♣2..♠5..
♣J.. 7.. 6.. 3.. A..♣8.. 5.. 3.. A.. T..
2.. Q.. K.. 7.. J.. 9.. 8.. 8
Walddk2: 1010 with give Scotland another imp
idc: Was it John Matheson?
bcallaghan: On top club lead might be 1010.
idc: If so, someone should tell him 1978 is over
now and he can start bidding them again
keylime : N-S has had much of the play this
match,and the score is showing, along with very
active biddings in the CR
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mariner1: this is the penultimate board of the
session........ next session in 26 minutes
garnetts: Nasty splits here-joest: Madeira is a Portuguese wine am I right?
joest: I’m told yes
christinas: 2.4. through declarer
hedyg: ok
santyclz: I love the people who list that as 0, 2, 4.
hedyg: lolol
Walddk2: Operator, you sure he did not make
them all?..p
Walddk2: If he did, I’ll give you the code for
correction
bcallaghan: Sorry, does look like it should be
1010 in any case.
vugraphzkk: He claimed 12 ... they are discussing
it.
Walddk2: E-W should give him one more
bcallaghan: Not if he thought his diamond suit
was good.
Walddk2: The code is 6SS+1
Walddk2: Click on MOVIE, highlight 30 and
overwrite
mariner1: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/
schedule.php - BBO Vugraph Schedule
mariner1: (set up to show times for your area)
calabres: Yes, cause Madeira is an Portuguese
Island:):)..p
bcallaghan: Vulnerable 5C save on this board...p
galadriel: I froze when we gained 10 imps!
garnetts: 4♠ was bid in the OR and drifted two
off--seems likely to be repeated
joest: and it’s in the evening over there right?
joest: :)
chick: anyone open the S hand?..1♣
lestergold: 11 tricks in clubs in open but should
only be ten tricks here no game
santyclz: Surprised there is anyone who doesn’t
these days.
mollerjep: they will not bid this one...
henrik_r : With Dorthe and Peter you never
know...
chick: I think it’s a guess ... as Joe says you need
2 honors onside, but which two you can’t tell, so
mentally flip a coin for the 9 or J..p
hedyg: 15-17 NT
lestergold: a grossly unsound 3s bid in front of
partner im old fashioned enuf to thinh that a
preempot in fornt of partner should have a vesttge
of a constructive element to it
Walddk2: Maybe 11..2♣
lestergold: automatic i would have thought but
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patrick is a senior tory
chick: now N thinks partner has longer spades,
weaker hand
lestergold: too right Chick
lestergold: well 3s thye limit for them
santyclz: Fit jump?
lestergold: kendrick will pass
henrik_r: But I tend to agree with you
christinas: once when we were young and in
love I used to play with Morten and we played his
system, but since I often forgot it, you probably
should not listen to me too much
ady: 3NT in other room seems unlikely contract
hedyg: LOL..p
galadriel: 11 even..2♠
lestergold : troubloe is kendrick would have
passed with a slightly better hand when game was
on
mollerjep: and its a very lucky 3nt
sybarra: this is a brutal hand ..p
santyclz: Since it doesn’t matter, take the play
that gains if all 3 are on side.
lestergold: e/wat green have sopld out prematurely..3N
lestergold: partner is fraisng that preempt on
laods of hands where you wont havew ap rayer
inm game not to mention the openalty option s for
th opponents
keylime: the dummy is not much of comfort for
declarer - the heart suit is a lacking of a fourth
trump a potential bother..p
bobholl: i would have doubled directly (lower
level lesser risk after pass )
mcarroll: nice balancing dbl
ady: another contract with no chance
lestergold: even juniotr b ridge players have
been coached out of thsi sort of nonsense
mariner1: how to play the ♠...... normally one
thinks S has more dues to 3 call..p
chick: that’s a good thought :)
garnetts: true..p
joest : yes as a passed hand, you wouldn’t be
overstating your values by doubling on the prior
round.. 9
mollerjep: as you say :-)
christinas: actually, here they play 3spades as
GF with 4S asking to pick a game, but because of
N’s distribution and many HCP, he just bid 3NT
ziff: They have? Good to hear. Could you lend
some of those coaches to German juniors?
ady: like the 2♣ overcall?
lestergold: well patner oppend bidding hard to
not bid ghame with north’s hand
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lestergold: sadly not a fighting chicken not eben
an apperentice kiosher chicken
mariner1: and of course he needs to ruff out the
.. 2
lestergold: i know e/w are not vulnerable but i
feel east had done en uf on his 4 count
santyclz: Sometimes the glass *is* half full... Q
chick: this looks to be down at least 1, maybe 2
garnetts : I am not sure I like 4
unless it
showed 5/5
santyclz: Does everyone play negative x’s on
that auction?
garnetts: double for takeout maybe
santyclz: If not, 4 is kind of forced.
garnetts: 3 forcing?
joest: but THE LAW commands it! :)
chick : why risk pushing them to a makeable
game? :)
lestergold: certainly the jump to 3s put west
under a lot of pressure too much to bear including
the fear that a 4c bid may have driven n/s into a
makeable vulnerable game
hedyg: especially because he has 10xx in
:)
hedyg: i like the 3NT bid.. K
santyclz: Potential beer hand...♠2
viren169: I would prefer to have a Hxx in hearts
to bid 3N (rather than the T)
mcarroll: the law is an as??s..♠3
idc: understandable doubles from NS but they
won’t get rich from them..♠A..♠T..♠K
joest: the law of total tricks..♠J
lestergold: as these cards lie 3s may well be off
as e/w have the forcing tempo.. 7
santyclz: If that wouldn’t either show 6 nor deny
♠s, then y...♠6
viren169: going via 2♣ would get to the same
place here
joest: but yes I know your phrase..♠9
santyclz: Tsk, tsk.
lestergold: dutch coaches id recommend
lestergold: we know which loawe u are referring
to Jack!.. 3
garnetts: Odd result on the last hand in the OR
played in 1 making 10 tricks ..♣3
lestergold: for msure
henrik_r: Looks like an IMP or two for Schou..
♠7..♠4
lestergold: maybe german juniors need coaches
with sticks that hurt
lestergold: n=but these danish seniors need them
to
lestergold: it seems
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ziff: :)
lestergold: too
vugraphzpe: martin is still a junior
lestergold: i know some of my bridge is a little
santyclz: I would expect, in a large field, that
that hand would be played in 6♣ several times.
ady: oh dear
dated
idc: Interesting 1 overcall from Howard - when
you play very agressive style, that hand is too
good/defensive for a weak jump at these colours..
♣5
lestergold : patrick cant draw trump without
losing control
mariner1: averaging 8 imps a board so far............
5
keylime: declarer’s getting frisky here
bobholl: now it may pay off :)..♠Q
christinas: On the hand with 4-4 fit in spades,
where they went 1 down in 4 hearts, EW are in 5
clubs in the other room. It ought to make, but lets
see...
keylime: and dodges a bullet... Q.. 4
lestergold: my law of total tricks says that 4
points plus a minimum opening bid does not
generally produce 9 total tricks
joest: actually at these colors you get a good
score for 3 at matchpoints if they don’t find the
double
chick: the LoTT does not say it will
lestergold: Chick i know the law im just failing
to be funny
chick: it says that if it doesn’t, the opponents
have more
chick: ookkkaaayyyyyyyy :)
santyclz: But will it matter with e pitching all the
♣s. Still only -1.
lestergold: as lone spec says the la is about when
you have about half the deck.. 2
lestergold: maybe west with 5 spades even tho
small should not have been that scared of a spade
game
lestergold : but no one will convince me to
openm 3s wityh tah pikle of festering old horse
manure
ady: decided not totake the diamond early in case
of a mis defence sort of got one but still down
2.. A
lestergold: and ui david how many loaded guins
to your head to open 3s on that sort of garbage..
J
idc: so I’m with his 1 - in a different partnership,
it would be a 2 bid.. 3
ady: know he is 6-5 now so K
easy.. 8
santyclz: Wd,.. 4.. 9.. J
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
16
this/total IMPs
Geologi Timah
116
Mitra Buana
1
158
E 6
680
E 5
650
16
2
♠6
2
Q98 2
7
1
Q7 4
7
♣J9652
♠ J10 5
N ♠ AK Q9 4 3
J6
A10
W E
9865
A K10 3
S
♣10 8 4 3
♣A
♠8 7 2
10
11
K7543
5
J2
11
♣K Q 7
6
650
W: D Sacul
W
p
2
4♠
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N: Ong Keng H
Open
S: Very P
N
E
p
2♣
p
2♠
p
p
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#1 S:: J,5,4,A
#3 E:: A,7,3,5
#5 W:: J, 6, 4,8
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p
p
#2 E:: A,2,5,6
#4 E:: 3,7,T, 2
#6 W:: 9,7,3,2
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NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
16
this/total IMPs
Mitra Buana
1
158
Geologi Timah
116
E 6
680
E 5
650
16
2
♠6
2
Q98 2
7
1
Q7 4
7
♣J9652
♠ J10 5
N ♠ AK Q9 4 3
J6
A10
W E
9865
A K10 3
S
♣10 8 4 3
♣A
♠8 7 2
10
11
K7543
5
J2
11
♣K Q 7
6
650
W: Julius A G
W
p
p
p
N: Lusye Bojo
Closed
E: W S tjejep
S: Robert Tob
N
E
S
p
1♣
1
3
4♠
p
p
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#1 S:: 3,6,Q,A
#2 E:: 3,8,J,6
#3 W:: 5,,,
idc: hmm, first thought is that
suit will be fun
to play in 3NT..p..p..2♣!..p..2 !..p..2♠..p..4♠
..p..p..p.. J.. 5.. 4.. A..♠A..♠2..♠5..♠6..♣
A..♣7..♣3..♣5..♠3..♠7..♠T..♣2..♠J..♣6..♠
4..♠8.. 9.. 7.. 3.. 2
mariner1: this is the last board of this session........
next session in 21 minutes
keylime: 123 imps in 15 boards is a lot
sybarra: this is last hand of this set
Joe Shair, David Carlisle and Cornelia Yoder
vugraphzmh: ty to our wonderful commentators :)
Federation and Luis Correia for bringing this
wonderful tourney to bbo.
bobholl: made ???
lestergold: uin any case soem miracle they made
it
henrik_r: No. The first push of the match...
hedyg: last board of this segment now
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santyclz: The failure to unblock the ♠s at trick 1
cost.
hedyg : our thanks to Matias Rohrberg , our
outstanding operator in Copenhagen ! to my
excellent fellow commentators Christina Lund
Madsen, Gad Chadha and Joe Shair for donating
their ...
hedyg: time to guide us through these boards! as
well as to the DBF for sharing with this event
with us, especially to Jens Ole Jensen and Henning
Jensen who were instrumental in ...
hedyg: organising these broadcasts.
hedyg: no he could have played ♠ earlier
lestergold: not even in his early junior days
drg: last hand here
idc: 9 to win the first round anyone?..p
idc: or the 10 ... 10 i think
mariner1: a big THANKS! to Unknown (China),
our superb operator, for doing an excellent
mariner1: job!!!
hedyg: special thanks to our specs for their kind
and helpful messages. we hope you enjoyed the
show
chthonic: No, it is not related to having points...p..1
♣
joest: south swung the ace of diamonds
viren169: thks all
lestergold: well nm/s overboard in open..1 ..p
henrik_r: A lot of IMPs have exchanged hands
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on some tricky boards
hedyg : please join us again at 9:45 am Los
Angeles, 12:45 pm New York, 18.45 Paris, 5:45
pm London
lestergold: a trappy hand here
bcallaghan: I would have tried to get to 2C with
the South hand. Maybe it’s Stayman...3
idc: in 1NT doubled, even more fun - East leads a
small , later run of diamonds puts West hand
under some pressure
bcallaghan: I think top diamond lead.
thoughts
mcarroll: Nah bob 1 down
bobholl: still 2♠ a♣ 2
joest: 5 will not be the winner
lestergold: well so far we are in a par contract a
rare sight to behold in the current climate
bobholl: stay fixed !!
ady: 26 hcp no game
lestergold: no game
keylime: as we finish up, we wish to thank the
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CCBA and the Shenyang Bridge Association for
this event..4♠
joest: cash is still just as good now as it was on
board 9 :)
lestergold: what is 3d?
Walddk4: Fit bid presumably
lestergold: if i was his partner i would certainly
have a fit
henrik_r: This board is a potential swing for
Schaltz as Schou-Brˆ ´‚ndum got to 3NT as NS
and lost the obvious 5 tricks
Walddk2: Right, they could easily be running..p
Walddk2: And if not, still hope that ♠K is an
entry
idc : true, but that takes away the fun, just a
boring -1 i think
mariner1: many thanks to all the organizers and
sponsors, the CBF and all for helping BBO
mariner1: bring us the vugraphs!
keylime : also, a big thanks to my tag team
partner, Rob Brown, from the Pacific NW
calabres: We will return in about 15/20 min, ty
sybarra: we will be back after a short break
santyclz: And thanks to Shirley as well.
santyclz: Fourth suit forcing?
garnetts: Thanks everyone ..p
lestergold: yeh normality afrrives on board 16!!
mollerjep: but a very exiting set of boards...and I
guees this will be tight all the way
henrik_r: Dbl??
lestergold: but casnt blame them for bidding one
bcallaghan: West may still be squeezed...p
idc: looks like SOuth could pass to get a forced
XX, then run to 2♣ to show 5
idc: no idea either why he didn’t
keylime : to Roland our fearless leader of all
things vugraph
mariner1: thank you Dwayne
ady: best is 10 tricks in diamonds bound to
reach game
keylime: to Fred, our patron of bridge.. 3
pentacon: ˆ‚hh
henrik_r: He knows they have a 11 card diamond
fit
henrik_r: and that partner has a (sub)minimum
opener
santyclz: Clearly an unjustifiable overbid without
the 7... 6
christinas: see you all, looks to be a close and
exciting finish
hedyg: yes should be fun!
keylime: SYT will be feeling really good heading
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into the finals I think.. Q
henrik_r : It is clearly T/O, but still a little
strange
lestergold : on backwards heart hook it can
make.. A
lestergold: but why should he find that
ziff: No w he has to get s right to succeed
ady: only reach chance for n/s is a low heart lead
and play low from the south hand
lestergold: its a bit doubl dummjy n ot absurd
garnetts: much more competitive here than in the
OR..♠3
chick: hehe
lestergold: well how on earth a hand bristling
with queens and jacks found anything more than
a courtesy raise puzzles me
lestergold: its a guess
joest: so this will wind up as a 1 imp differential
to Lara..♠8
bcallaghan: Provided declarer plays spades - one
down...♠J..♠6
galadriel: Strange..partners don’t like it when
you squeeze them...and like it less when you
endplay them!
mariner1: we end on what appears to be a quiet
board...........
hedyg: hard to read 8♠
idc: I suppose 4 hcp opposite 15-17, gamble on it
making isn’t so weird, down in the match etc..♠5
keylime: they capitalized on a lot of errors,and
for the most part stayed out of trouble
henrik_r: And our 2nd push of the match
ady: yes could still make
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